Apple Ordered by UK to Create Global iCloud Encryption Backdoor

Re:Apple Ordered by UK to Create Global iCloud Encryption Ba... by thaumasiotes on Friday February 07, 2025 @08:33PM (#42979509)

> Relations with China were pretty cosy till they did a 180 around the second Bush administration and started all that Wolf Warrior diplomacy, 9 dotted line stuff, Hongkong crackdowns.......

No, relations with China were warm right up through the end of the Obama administration and into Trump's first term. That's why the first approach China took to the Biden administration was to hope for straightforward normalization of relations.

China started issuing 10-year visas to Americans under Obama. The Wolf Warrior movies, after which the policy is named, started coming out in 2015.

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Re:Apple Ordered by UK to Create Global iCloud Encryption Ba... by wordofx on Saturday February 08, 2025 @12:59AM (#42980749)

Relations were good until Xi took over.

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Re:Apple Ordered by UK to Create Global iCloud Encryption Ba... by thaumasiotes on Saturday February 08, 2025 @01:34AM (#42980921)

You don't have the slightest clue what you're saying. He took over in 2012.

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Re:Apple Ordered by UK to Create Global iCloud Encryption Ba... by wordofx on Saturday February 08, 2025 @05:42AM (#42982021)

And everything went downhill from there.

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Re:Apple Ordered by UK to Create Global iCloud Encryption Ba... by thaumasiotes on Saturday February 08, 2025 @02:36PM (#42985550)

And then the ten-year visa agreement happened in 2014. Why are you commenting at all?

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Re:Apple Ordered by UK to Create Global iCloud Encryption Ba... by wordofx on Sunday February 09, 2025 @12:13AM (#42988637)

Because you said it started in 2015. It started in 2012.

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Re:Apple Ordered by UK to Create Global iCloud Encryption Ba... by thaumasiotes on Sunday February 09, 2025 @05:10AM (#42989730)

I said it started under Trump. You might or might not be aware that he became president in 2016.

What do you think happened in 2012?

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Re:Apple Ordered by UK to Create Global iCloud Encryption Ba... by wordofx on Sunday February 09, 2025 @05:55AM (#42989885)

Xi took power. That’s when relations went down the drain.

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Re:Apple Ordered by UK to Create Global iCloud Encryption Ba... by thaumasiotes on Sunday February 09, 2025 @06:50PM (#42995387)

Do you have an example illustrating that? What happened that reflected worsened relations?

Is there any chance you're just making up everything you say?

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Re:Apple Ordered by UK to Create Global iCloud Encryption Ba... by wordofx on Monday February 10, 2025 @12:56AM (#42997341)

South China Sea militarisation started 2013. BRI in 2013. 2013 began the raise of cyber attacks on American businesses from China.

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