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Re:Tesla Is Alienating the People It Needs Most: Study by ggm on Thursday February 06, 2025 @11:38PM (#42969464)
If you'd said less beneficial I could agree. Since batteries can soak surplus power and make it available at other times there is a substantial social utility to ev as energy soaks irrespective of the source.

The "less efficient because coal" thing is massively overstated sometimes, it's tendentious.

Re:Tesla Is Alienating the People It Needs Most: Study by croes on Friday February 07, 2025 @03:23AM (#42970576)
Not less efficient, useless. Imagine instead of directly powering the car by combustion engine, you first use a combustion engine to generate electricity to fill the battery.

How would the car benefit the environment?

Re:Tesla Is Alienating the People It Needs Most: Study by ggm on Friday February 07, 2025 @05:04AM (#42971072)
Coal generation favours long run times and is inefficient at being ramped up and down quickly. Using battery systems to soak surplus power time shifts a commodity which otherwise has to be negatively priced. The ideal input for a battery is of course renewable energy but there is a case for batteries as energy soak during times of low consumption, and to help stabilise demand in the network. This isn't an individual car efficiency statement, it's about socialised costs.