Researchers created an open rival to OpenAI's o1 'reasoning' model for under $50

Re:Researchers created an open rival to OpenAI's o1 'reasoni... by efavdb on Thursday February 06, 2025 @09:56AM (#42962940)

Noob question: It sounds like the statement is “we learned it’s cheap to copy an already built model” from its outputs, but is it still expensive to train a new (better) base model?

If so, is this mostly a concern because there’s little moat available now to those who pay to train the better base models?

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Re:Researchers created an open rival to OpenAI's o1 'reasoni... by wrenky on Thursday February 06, 2025 @11:32AM (#42964002)

nope you have the article right. "if you copy an existing model, you can get a pretty comparable model!"

Really, [what the underlying paper](https://arxiv.org/abs/2501.19393) shows is how much you can improve existing models with several of the techniques released by openai recently (extending thought processes via "wait")

It shows we can get a lot of mileage out of that technique.

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