What's Happening Inside the NIH and NSF

Re:What's Happening Inside the NIH and NSF by willvarfar on Tuesday February 04, 2025 @07:00PM (#42941194)

China, for example, could set up a very European-style English-speaking institute in Hong Kong or Macau with high salaries to attract scientists. Singapore and South Korea too. One day Americans might well follow the money and the research freedom?

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Re:What's Happening Inside the NIH and NSF by UncleOxidant on Tuesday February 04, 2025 @07:07PM (#42941279)

Heck, China has a reproduction of Jackson Hole, Wy. (See the documentary Americaville)

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Re:What's Happening Inside the NIH and NSF by bilbo0s on Tuesday February 04, 2025 @08:09PM (#42942011)

China's drowning in their own PhD's. The competition is fierce, and the pressure is enormous. The best and brightest over there are insanely capable men and women.

In all honesty, it's hard to see China wanting many of the PhD's that would be available from the US in a worst case scenario NSF/NIH funding collapse. There may be a place for the top 0.1%? But for 99.9% of PhD's, there are Chinese replacements that are, frankly, better and cheaper.

Hate to bring it back to money like that, but there it is.

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Re:What's Happening Inside the NIH and NSF by jimmydoe on Wednesday February 05, 2025 @12:27AM (#42944211)

China has been funding students from global south, that has big room to grow if China can overcome xenophobia problem in its culture.

As for PhD from developed countries, it’s gonna be hard as you said.

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Re:What's Happening Inside the NIH and NSF by willvarfar on Wednesday February 05, 2025 @12:56AM (#42944410)

There's also the angle that enticing the brains away from 'the west' is about denying the west something.

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Re:What's Happening Inside the NIH and NSF by sangnoir on Wednesday February 05, 2025 @01:01AM (#42944447)

I see Chinese nationals in US labs thinking a return to China is a more attractive now than it was a few weeks ago. Chinese institutions should absolutely capitalize on this.

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Re:What's Happening Inside the NIH and NSF by dluan on Wednesday February 05, 2025 @03:50AM (#42945805)

It's been happening already for a few years. Many prominent award-winning faculty are leaving US institutions and setting up brand new labs in top Chinese universities.

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