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Re:The Young, Inexperienced Engineers Aiding Elon Musk’s Gov... by skulk on Monday February 03, 2025 @09:37PM (#42926978)
> I just can't wrap my head around people that were "drain the swamp" nativists are cool with an unelected foreign-born billionaire having free reign, essentially unaccountably, to do whatever he wants to any federal department.

Go on Twitter or any other site that doesn't ban a certain flavor of discourse. Observe how much glee is being expressed towards negative emotions of others (such as "libs" or marginalized people). That's the point.

Re:The Young, Inexperienced Engineers Aiding Elon Musk’s Gov... by hn_throwaway_99 on Monday February 03, 2025 @10:06PM (#42927274)
Again, I don't think that's really the whole story. For the 35-40% of the electorate that is hard core MAGA, sure, and for the smaller percentage of "terminally online" Twitter people, moreso. But for the folks who really were just unsatisfied with the direction of the country, didn't like the Dems, wanted to send a protest vote over Gaza, etc. - what are those people thinking/feeling?
Re:The Young, Inexperienced Engineers Aiding Elon Musk’s Gov... by bbqfog on Tuesday February 04, 2025 @10:12AM (#42933301)
I'm thinking the same thing that I was thinking when Biden was president, that Israel has corrupted our entire government. Nothing that's happening here even approaches what we've been enabling in Gaza, so if you weren't upset about that, it seems strange to be up in arms about what Trump is doing. I'd say it's a double standard that places way more value on the lives of Americans than those outside our borders.
Re:The Young, Inexperienced Engineers Aiding Elon Musk’s Gov... by Aachen on Monday February 03, 2025 @10:12PM (#42927326)
> Go on Twitter or any other site that doesn't ban a certain flavor of discourse.

I just don't understand where people even get this idea. Is it the repetition and perpetuation of it that makes so many people believe it? We are and have always been allowed to have whatever opinions we wanted on any of the regular platforms, so long as it doesn't affect the rights of others (so there's a line at racism, calling for violence, and advertising for scams for example). There has never been a "flavor ban" unless one's flavor is KKK

Re:The Young, Inexperienced Engineers Aiding Elon Musk’s Gov... by skulk on Monday February 03, 2025 @10:20PM (#42927404)
> advertising for scams

> racism

these are examples of flavors I'm talking about. I should have said "flavors" instead of flavor.

Re:The Young, Inexperienced Engineers Aiding Elon Musk’s Gov... by hn_throwaway_99 on Tuesday February 04, 2025 @01:24AM (#42928765)
> We are and have always been allowed to have whatever opinions we wanted on any of the regular platforms, so long as it doesn't affect the rights of others

If only it were that simple, because that's demonstrably not true. I'll give you a perfect example that was made clear by recent events.

Before last month, it was against Meta's rules to say that being LGBT was a mental illness. Similarly, you couldn't say people had a mental illness due to their religion.

But by this point I think it should be pretty clear that, in many respects, what we define as a "mental illness" is not some hard and fast rule, it's largely what we see as beyond the norm of socially acceptable boundaries at any given time.

I am gay. For someone else to have an opinion that being gay is a mental illness is a perfectly valid opinion, and it doesn't infringe on my rights (as long as they're not advocating for locking me up or whatever). I literally see no need to prohibit people from expressing the valid opinion that my being gay is a mental illness (I may think you're an asshole, but being a jerk certainly isn't banned on the Internet).

So when Meta announced their policy change to allow more "free speech", at first I was like "Ok, cool". I only became livid when I read the policy and saw that it's still against their rules to say people in "protected groups" have a mental illness except for a specific carve out for gay and trans people. F that. So I have to pretend all of the completely absurd religious nonsense about believing some sky fairy is out there and randomly does things like performing miracles (but for some reason never obvious enough to actually be miraculous) is not a sign of mental illness, but being gay is? Yeah, free speech my ass.

Point being, in your comment you have basically made an arbitrary division between what "whatever opinions" are valid, and what counts as e.g. racism, and pretend that it's a clear line.