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Re:The Young, Inexperienced Engineers Aiding Elon Musk’s Gov... by rukuu001 on Monday February 03, 2025 @09:34PM (#42926957)
Ha! That's great.

The opposite of that play is:

Voted-in Conservatives: we are the party of fiscal responsibility. We shall reduce govt spending by running services into the ground.

Voted-in Libs: We were voted in to undo all this f*kery... gotta spend those $$$

Conservatives: Didn't we say you can't trust those libs with the $$$?

For the record - I think society needs both parties alternating in power to function properly. Either one in power forever is a mistake

Re:The Young, Inexperienced Engineers Aiding Elon Musk’s Gov... by AdieuToLogic on Monday February 03, 2025 @10:06PM (#42927279)
What you describe is the insidious effect of repetitive use of the "Two Santas" strategy:

> Voted-in Conservatives: we are the party of fiscal responsibility.

Conservatives are provably not. See[0].

> Voted-in Libs: We were voted in to undo all this f*kery... gotta spend those $$$

This is a common misperception, fostered in large part by the effectivity of the "Two Santas" political strategy.

0 - https://www.investopedia.com/us-national-debt-by-year-749929...

Re:The Young, Inexperienced Engineers Aiding Elon Musk’s Gov... by rukuu001 on Tuesday February 04, 2025 @04:05PM (#42938677)
Oh I very much agree the cons are bad at money. Just talking about what they say.
Re:The Young, Inexperienced Engineers Aiding Elon Musk’s Gov... by dgb23 on Tuesday February 04, 2025 @06:08AM (#42930905)
Except that is inaccurate. With the exception of the Biden admin, Republicans have been increasing the national debt at a _much_ higher rate.

Both private and public dept have been rising rapidly since the 70/80's and the introduction of neoliberal policies. Real wages have stagnated, so Americans go into debt. Tax cuts for the rich, so the US has to borrow.

Re:The Young, Inexperienced Engineers Aiding Elon Musk’s Gov... by rukuu001 on Tuesday February 04, 2025 @04:06PM (#42938692)
Yes I agree with that.

I’m just talking about what they say rather than reality.

I’d have edited for clarity but I missed the window.

Re:The Young, Inexperienced Engineers Aiding Elon Musk’s Gov... by blitzar on Wednesday February 05, 2025 @04:43AM (#42946224)
> With the exception of the Biden admin

The last year in office Trump was spending $8 trillion a year and Biden left office spending $6.7 trillion.

Re:The Young, Inexperienced Engineers Aiding Elon Musk’s Gov... by dgb23 on Wednesday February 05, 2025 @05:00AM (#42946357)
Yes, but it would be dishonest to claim that only Republican admins drastically increased the deficit. Biden is an exception. I’m not comparing him to Trump either.