Their point (i assume because had same convo with my dad) is that the debt is such an emergency we should toss the rule of law

Sometimes following rules leads to an unrecoverable state, and then you have no choice but to reboot. Compound interest leads to either stagnation and decline, or else to jubilee. It's an inherently unstable system that has felled many civilizations before ours. Debt grows exponentially while real economies saturate in an S-curve. Eventually something has to give.

This is not that situation, you're been told so so you can give up what little power you have left out of stupidity.

Interest payments are the largest item of the federal budget. Give it time and they will consume the whole thing.

Stop unaudited government spending? Ukraine says it’s received only about half of what the Biden admin said it gave it.

It's looking like this was at least larping as a 40+ billion dollar slush fund. There may have been some legitimate (useful) spending, and they will find out after auditing the system, but it also looks like there was lots of waste and once-removed (one degree of separation) self-dealing.

How exactly is this approach an improvement over the status quo? Elon is not auditing spending. He’s pursuing political grudges and generating chaos for its own sake. The outcome will not be less government waste and fraud.

Read the rest of their replies in the thread - they're fully living in a full on fantasy land concerning what's actually happening.

This doesn’t mean what you think.