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Re:OpenAI O3-Mini by LoveMortuus on Friday January 31, 2025 @02:16PM (#42890732)
How would the DeepSeek fit into this?

Or can it not compare? I don't know much about this stuff, but I've heard recently many people talk about DeepSeek and how unexpected it was.

Re:OpenAI O3-Mini by sss111 on Friday January 31, 2025 @02:20PM (#42890771)
Deepseek V3 is equivalent to 4o. Deepseek R1 is equivalent to o1 (if not better)

I think someone should just build an AI model comparing website at this point. Include all benchmarks and pricing

Re:OpenAI O3-Mini by jsk2600 on Friday January 31, 2025 @03:11PM (#42891354)
Re:OpenAI O3-Mini by withinboredom on Friday January 31, 2025 @03:40PM (#42891698)
Looks like this only compares commercial models, and not the ones I can download and actually run locally.
Re:OpenAI O3-Mini by TuxSH on Friday January 31, 2025 @04:18PM (#42892155)
https://livebench.ai/#/

My experience is as follows:

- "Reason" toggle just got enabled for me as a free tier user of ChatGPT's webchat. Apparently this is o3-mini - I have Copilot Pro (offered to me for free), which apparently has o1 too (as well as Sonnet, etc.)

From my experience DeepSeek R1 (webchat) is more expressive, more creative and its writing style is leagues better than OpenAI's models, however it under-performs Sonnet when changing code ("code completion").

Comparison screenshots for prompt "In C++, is a reference to "const C" a "const reference to C"?": https://imgur.com/a/c-is-reference-to-const-c-const-referenc...

tl;dr keep using Claude for code and DeepSeek webchat for technical questions

Re:OpenAI O3-Mini by dutchbookmaker on Friday January 31, 2025 @06:36PM (#42893773)
I had resubscribed to use o1 2 weeks ago and haven't even logged in this week because of R1.

One thing I notice that is huge is being able to see the chain of thought lets me see when my prompt was lacking and the model is a bit confused on what I want.

If I was anymore impressed with R1 I would probably start getting accused of being a CCP shill or wumao lol.

With that said, I think it is very hard to compare models for your own use case. I do suspect there is a shiny new toy bias with all this too.

Poor Sonnet 3.5. I have neglected it so much lately I actually don't know if I have a subscription or not right now.

I do expect an Anthropic reasoning model though to blow everything else away.

Re:OpenAI O3-Mini by seunosewa on Saturday February 01, 2025 @10:13AM (#42898925)
The thought-stream is very important to me as well.
Re:OpenAI O3-Mini by r0fl on Saturday February 01, 2025 @08:07PM (#42904463)
R1 servers seem to be down or busy a lot lately.

It’s an amazing model but was so much faster before the hype

The servers being constantly down is the only reason I haven’t cancelled my ChatGPT subscription

Re:OpenAI O3-Mini by egeozcan on Sunday February 02, 2025 @12:46AM (#42906276)
Me too actually. I wish I could pay to get priority. I know there are 3rd party providers but I want a chat interface and not fiddle with setting my own.