Re:Note on the Relationship Between Artificial Intelligence ...
by cynicalpeace on Thursday January 30, 2025 @02:59PM
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"The onus of proof is on the one making the extraordinary claim and religion is firmly on the side of the extraordinary"
Except the fact that something exists rather than nothing at all is absolutely extraordinary. I would put the burden of proof on anyone claiming it's completely explicable and mundane.
Re:Note on the Relationship Between Artificial Intelligence ...
by grahamj on Thursday January 30, 2025 @03:11PM
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Existence is all we know; there is nothing more ordinary.
The idea of nothing existing is just that: an idea. Like god.
Re:Note on the Relationship Between Artificial Intelligence ...
by cynicalpeace on Thursday January 30, 2025 @03:22PM
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Existence is not all we know. There was a time when you did not exist.
Unless your claim is that you always existed, you must admit that nothing is more than an idea.
And also, something existing for all of eternity forever is just as extraordinary as something coming from nothing.
Those are our two options and they both are extraordinary and imply something many people would call "God"
There’s nothing wrong with speaking out when we see people saying things we believe to be false and it’s unreasonable to expect everyone to hedge every single thing they say simply because, well, we don’t really know anything.
I know there’s no omnipotent being who cares so much about the minutiae of our lives yet allows terrible things to happen. I know the bible was written by people who never experienced the magical things written about. The onus of proof is on the one making the extraordinary claim and religion is firmly on the side of the extraordinary.
Focusing on the impossibility of knowing is just skirting the issue of the impossibility of the claims.