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Re:DeepSeek R1: Open Weights, Hidden Bias by sylware on Thursday January 30, 2025 @12:09PM (#42879750)
The bias is baked into the open weights, namely happening on self-hosted 671B LLM??
Re:DeepSeek R1: Open Weights, Hidden Bias by pgkr on Thursday January 30, 2025 @12:36PM (#42880027)
Yes -- we observed this behavior on both the open-source open-weights 671B model as well as the DeepSeek web app.
Re:DeepSeek R1: Open Weights, Hidden Bias by sylware on Thursday January 30, 2025 @05:54PM (#42883043)
Weird, because I got some deepseek feedback where it was openly critical and explicit about the authoritative regime of china. I really thought it was the "deepseek web app" only.

Then I have mixed signals about this.

Re:DeepSeek R1: Open Weights, Hidden Bias by pgkr on Friday January 31, 2025 @11:14AM (#42888945)
We're working on a follow-up post focused on our analysis of the open-source open-weight 671B model. What we're seeing is that questions related to the Chinese government produce an empty chain-of-thought followed by pro-Chinese-government talking points.
Re:DeepSeek R1: Open Weights, Hidden Bias by sylware on Saturday February 01, 2025 @05:32AM (#42897389)
It is too late, I got mixed signals.

This is going to be very hard to trust anything about it anymore, unless running the 671B locally an my own systems.

Re:DeepSeek R1: Open Weights, Hidden Bias by pgkr on Monday February 03, 2025 @10:37AM (#42919231)
We ran the 671B locally and found a ton of bias. See part 2 of our analysis here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42918935

Happy to send you the dataset if you'd like! Please reach out to our email linked in the post.