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Re:Note on the Relationship Between Artificial Intelligence ... by XCSme on Thursday January 30, 2025 @11:37AM (#42879419)
I agree with most of it, but saying that holism doesn't exist is weird.

Also, humans have definitely created things that are better, at least in some aspects, than humans.

Cars are faster than humans.

Even AI-specific, AI chess engines are a lot stronger than any human alive, even then all humans combined.

Re:Note on the Relationship Between Artificial Intelligence ... by GreenWatermelon on Thursday January 30, 2025 @11:51AM (#42879567)
And a calculator is faster than all humans combined at doing arithmetic, but I don't consider it more intelligent than an ant hive.

Everyone now uses intelligence to mean whateva ChatGPT can do, but all those language models combined don't even show 1/10th of my Cat's intelligence.

Re:Note on the Relationship Between Artificial Intelligence ... by mistrial9 on Thursday January 30, 2025 @11:40AM (#42879452)
"cars are better than people because they are faster" ? at what cost? with what side-effects? what is missing?
Re:Note on the Relationship Between Artificial Intelligence ... by XCSme on Thursday January 30, 2025 @11:56AM (#42879626)
That's true, the implications are not necessarily positive.

I was just criticizing the idea that it's impossible for something to make something better than itself. Maybe not in all aspects, but at least in some, it's definitely possible.