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Re:OpenAI Furious DeepSeek Might Have Stolen All the Data Op... by dchichkov on Wednesday January 29, 2025 @05:21PM (#42872017)
There are examples of learning reasoning from scratch with reinforcement learning.

Emergent tool use from multi-agent interaction is a good example - https://openai.com/index/emergent-tool-use/

Re:OpenAI Furious DeepSeek Might Have Stolen All the Data Op... by ipaddr on Wednesday January 29, 2025 @10:12PM (#42874401)
Now you are asking for a perfect modeling of the system. Reinforcement learning works by discovering boundaries.
Re:OpenAI Furious DeepSeek Might Have Stolen All the Data Op... by tracker1 on Thursday January 30, 2025 @04:26AM (#42876298)
Now rediscover all the plants that are and aren't poisonous to most people.
Re:OpenAI Furious DeepSeek Might Have Stolen All the Data Op... by dchichkov on Thursday January 30, 2025 @05:43PM (#42882935)
I've suggested that long context should be included into the prompt.

In your particular case the prompt would look something like: <pubmed dump> what are the plants that aren't poisonous to most people?

A general reasoner would recover language and relevant world model from pubmed dump. And then would proceed to reason about it, to perform the task.

It doesn't look like a particularly efficient process.