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Re:The Illustrated DeepSeek-R1 by redcobra762 on Tuesday January 28, 2025 @11:35AM (#42854323)
So it genuinely does not matter to you how completely irrelevant US copyright law is to China, when using a Chinese LLM?

That’s such a weirdly specific application of a moral principle, it’s hard to believe.

Re:The Illustrated DeepSeek-R1 by troyvit on Tuesday January 28, 2025 @02:12PM (#42856598)
It doesn't matter to you how completely irrelevant global copyright law is to OpenAI? [1]

[1] https://futurism.com/the-byte/openai-copyrighted-material-pa...

Re:The Illustrated DeepSeek-R1 by redcobra762 on Tuesday January 28, 2025 @02:36PM (#42856881)
No, but then again I didn't claim copyright law mattered to me at all, you did.
Re:The Illustrated DeepSeek-R1 by troyvit on Tuesday January 28, 2025 @03:13PM (#42857359)
I also said:

> The bottom line though is that nobody is innocent in that regard.

In other words, that bird has flown and it isn't a valid reason to choose one model over another.

Re:The Illustrated DeepSeek-R1 by redcobra762 on Tuesday January 28, 2025 @03:31PM (#42857565)
Except you said it was worth caring about! I agree with what you wrote here, but I thought we were talking about this because you had concerns about OpenAI's disrespect for copyright.
Re:The Illustrated DeepSeek-R1 by troyvit on Wednesday January 29, 2025 @10:44AM (#42866337)
Hey just wanna say I was sick yesterday, so if I was a schmuck I apologize. I think we actually agree on most of the things, and even as I was posting responses I was like, "... there's something hypocritical here but I can't quite see it." So again, my apologies.
Re:The Illustrated DeepSeek-R1 by CamperBob2 on Tuesday January 28, 2025 @03:19PM (#42857433)
It doesn't matter to the Chinese, and that's all that matters.

To the extent that training a model with copyrighted material infringes copyright, copyright law has to change. There is no other point of view. Disagreement means forfeiting a very important game before it even begins.