It’s almost like you haven’t been watching US politics for the last eight years.

I should have said I'm hopeful. I'm always hopeful people can behave like adults and see the long term consequences of their action (and inaction) over others as well as themselves.

This is like being hopeful of staying dry in the rain

> I am sure at least some of them know right from wrong.

They also know which way the crowd/mob leans, and they know if they want to achieve their goals/agenda

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_2025

they need to have power

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Realpolitik

If you don't have power you can't do shit. Just ask Harris/Biden/Clinton.

“The first duty of a revolutionary is to get away with it.” ― Abbie Hoffman, Steal This Book

At this point, at least in the US, ideals are for suckers and losers. You can have ideals once you're in, but being effective is more important before that.

There is no if in that sentence. It is Trump's party. The party of what used to be personal freedom is now in support of what amounts to a king.

It's honestly astonishing.

What were once considered conservative values have been completely tossed aside. It kind of blows my mind.

> It'd be a tragedy if representatives were loyal to a president over the country.

Trump was impeached twice by the House but was not convicted by the GOP-controlled Senate twice.

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impeachment_of_Donald_Trump

The second impeachment was for "incitement of insurrection".

Pardon my bluntness, but what planet are you living on?

Knowing right from wrong and acting on that knowledge are entirely different though.

Standing up to Trump is dangerous to one's political and mortal future. He's removed the security details of Mike Pompeo and John Bolton, two Republicans who served him during his first term. Trump is a spiteful man with no care about the lives or safety of others, and that's partly what got him elected. The remaining Republicans know this, and will toe the line. Speaking out against Trump, even if one retires, is dangerous.