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Re:The Alpha Myth: How captive wolves led us astray by oguz-ismail on Tuesday January 28, 2025 @12:00AM (#42848999)
Except all living things are inherently violent and knowing when to apply what amount of violence is part of being socially intelligent.
Re:The Alpha Myth: How captive wolves led us astray by ninetyninenine on Tuesday January 28, 2025 @12:27AM (#42849144)
Violence is an effective strategy. One of many. It's not stable but it has been used successfully in human history. The thing is you can't have a society that's constantly violent all the time forever and ever. Those tend to self select via natural selection.

You can have societies be temporarily violent like how Americans slaughtered and killed Native Americans and took over the continent. The formation of the USA comes from this type of effective violence. Who would be the alphas in this case? the native americans? Or the ones that invaded? I know I'm a bit on the nose here, but this is just reality.

Re:The Alpha Myth: How captive wolves led us astray by _Tev on Thursday January 30, 2025 @11:16AM (#42879179)
You still seem to confuse concepts of dominance and leadership, similarly how your opponents in the debate confuse dominance and violence.

But I would agree with them that leadership does not require dominance.

Re:The Alpha Myth: How captive wolves led us astray by oezi on Tuesday January 28, 2025 @02:17AM (#42849716)
Citation needed. Such a vast generalization seems obviously false.

I don't even think the concept of violence makes sense when the being causing it has sufficient cognition.

Re:The Alpha Myth: How captive wolves led us astray by pixl97 on Tuesday January 28, 2025 @07:51AM (#42851727)
Strange take.

Violence is like a key on a piano. You were born with it. You can choose not to play that note, but it is always there, it is never not there.

You can choose to play great melodies without the violence note. You can choose to play melodies with the violence note. You can be forced in a corner and have no option but to hammer the violence key until the strings scream.