Another undersea cable damaged in Baltic Sea

Re:Another undersea cable damaged in Baltic Sea by vollbrecht on Sunday January 26, 2025 @05:05PM (#42834671)

How much value is a vessel itself + the cargo its carrying overall? And how much is that relative to the the cost of repairing all the physical damage alone(Not including other damage). Would it be useful measure to seizure the vessel and use its value to compensate for its damage done, making it a deterrence?

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Re:Another undersea cable damaged in Baltic Sea by alkonaut on Sunday January 26, 2025 @05:18PM (#42834783)

Since these cables are repaired within days or up to 2 weeks it seems, it can’t cost a fortune. A reasonably sized ship sounds like it would pay for it easily.

Especially as authorities seem to have trouble finding those responsible. Tracing the owner of the ship leads to some hotel in Dubai or similar (previous incident). Just keep the ship until the owners call. If there seems to be no owner interested in taking responsibility, sell it.

And we should start enforcing the requirement for insurance and environmental compliance for any passing the danish straits to/from Russian ports. Any ship that isn’t up to standard can turn back to the Atlantic.

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Re:Another undersea cable damaged in Baltic Sea by dzhiurgis on Sunday January 26, 2025 @06:25PM (#42835404)

Blacklist the companies and crews behind these ships.

NATO controls Kategat and Finnish straits.

Close airspace around Kaliningrad as it is unsafe due to GPS jamming.

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Re:Another undersea cable damaged in Baltic Sea by dist-epoch on Sunday January 26, 2025 @05:16PM (#42834775)

A better deterrence would be Russia's cables being cut too.

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Re:Another undersea cable damaged in Baltic Sea by nradov on Sunday January 26, 2025 @05:26PM (#42834857)

A better deterrence would be for Europe to actually stop buying fossil fuel from Russia (including indirectly via neutral countries) instead of goofing around with price caps or other marginally effective sanctions.

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Re:Another undersea cable damaged in Baltic Sea by alkonaut on Sunday January 26, 2025 @05:21PM (#42834812)

I don’t think we’ll want to be in a war of escalating service-denial with a country full of people used to not having indoor plumbing. Seems like we’d suffer more.

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Re:Another undersea cable damaged in Baltic Sea by pjc50 on Monday January 27, 2025 @04:24AM (#42839039)

They're cutting their own cables. https://www.businessinsider.com/russia-tested-cutting-off-in...

As nvradov says, the sanctions need to get a lot harder, especially on German machine tools.

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