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Re:Tesco Discount Barcodes, Cracked by highace on Monday July 23, 2012 @01:08PM (#4281958)
Why bother paying at all? This is basically the same as just walking straight out the store with your goods. A guard won't accept a receipt that says your flat screen tv only cost 49p.
Re:Tesco Discount Barcodes, Cracked by ori_b on Monday July 23, 2012 @01:48PM (#4282149)
You're assuming that a guard will care or be alert enough to check carefully. They're not expecting doctored prices on correctly labeled items.
Re:Tesco Discount Barcodes, Cracked by petercooper on Monday July 23, 2012 @02:51PM (#4282447)
A minor detail here, but British stores don't typically have guards who check receipts (unless you set the alarms off by having a tag left on an item by mistake/shoplifting).
Re:Tesco Discount Barcodes, Cracked by Lozzer on Monday July 23, 2012 @03:19PM (#4282603)
Funnily enough if you buy Tesco's electrical goods online and pick up at store you don't get a paper receipt. The security guard (through lack of training) wasn't keen on letting me out without one.
Re:Tesco Discount Barcodes, Cracked by ars on Monday July 23, 2012 @09:04PM (#4283815)
American stores don't typically have guards either.

Some stores do, but it's not usual.

It's not really that hard to steal from a grocery store, but in general people are honest.

Re:Tesco Discount Barcodes, Cracked by mistercow on Tuesday July 24, 2012 @12:52AM (#4284391)
Also, with the possible exception of membership-based stores like Costco, the "guards" at the front of American stores like Best Buy don't actually have any authority to prevent you from leaving without checking your stuff. Of course, some of them are not correctly instructed on this fact and will break the law and illegally try to obstruct your exit from the store/parking lot anyway.
Re:Tesco Discount Barcodes, Cracked by jrmg on Tuesday July 24, 2012 @04:08AM (#4284782)
I've wondered about this for a while, so I looked it up. The Internet (always a trustworthy source, I know...) seems to disagree with you - or at the very most think it's a grey area, leaning towards that they're allowed:

http://www.thelegality.com/2008/03/12/stop-that-paying-custo...

http://legallad.quickanddirtytips.com/store-security-and-you...

Re:Tesco Discount Barcodes, Cracked by mistercow on Tuesday July 24, 2012 @01:28PM (#4286787)
Well I certainly didn't say that they can't ask you to look at your bags. As long as the search is voluntary, they can ask pretty much whatever they like. But you can surely say "no" and then leave. If they physically block you from leaving, they are violating the law in many jurisdictions (they're trying to make a citizen's arrest, which you can't just do without any reason, and refusing to let them look in your bag isn't a reason). If they actually touch you, then you may even have claim of assault. From what I can tell, this has not actually been tested directly, but it is a reasonable expectation of how things would play out, if you took it all the way to court.

On the other hand, the store is also perfectly within their rights to ban you from the premises once you've left. So even if they can't arrest you, they can certainly put a picture up that says "Don't let this guy in the store." It is private property, after all.

The main case mentioned in the thelegality.com article you linked ended with Righi settling with the police so that they dropped the charges in exchange for him giving up the right to sue. Given the balance of resources and power between an individual and a police department, I think that's pretty good evidence that the police department themselves didn't think they were going to win that battle.

The Legal Lad article, on the other hand, seems to just wring its hands about various scenarios without addressing the question everyone cares about: You walk out of a Best Buy, nobody has any reason to believe you stole anything, and when they ask to check your bags, you say "no thanks" and walk out.

Re:Tesco Discount Barcodes, Cracked by petercooper on Monday July 23, 2012 @09:47PM (#4283919)
I don't know the absolute stats but in 12 years of adulthood I've never had to show a receipt to anyone in the UK and in about 12 weeks of vacations in the US, I've done it several times. So yeah, it might not be a standard thing there, although it does seem to be more of a "thing" people accept.
Re:Tesco Discount Barcodes, Cracked by ars on Monday July 23, 2012 @10:19PM (#4284020)
What stores? The only stores I know that do it are Walmart (sometimes) and Costco and SamsClub (always).

Costco and SamsClub don't give you bags, so that would be my guess on why they check it.

I've lived in the US for many years and besides those stores I've never had to show a receipt (that I can remember).

Re:Tesco Discount Barcodes, Cracked by petercooper on Monday July 23, 2012 @10:35PM (#4284072)
Ah man, I can't remember all the stores I've been in while on vacation ;-) But yeah, definitely Walmart, and another I remember in particular is Fry's.
Re:Tesco Discount Barcodes, Cracked by ConstantineXVI on Monday July 23, 2012 @10:19PM (#4284016)
The only store of any kind I'm aware of around here that checks receipts every time is Sam's. A lot of places will have "less than friendly" staff by the exit, but explicit security is fairly rare in my experience.
Re:Tesco Discount Barcodes, Cracked by swdunlop on Monday July 23, 2012 @10:51PM (#4284120)
You should try Fry's Electronics, which often seems to have the position of "if anyone's going to be defrauding anyone, it'll be US, buddy!"

Sorry, still sore about that repackaged and bricked WRT54g.. If anyone's going to brick things, it'll be ME! :)

Re:Tesco Discount Barcodes, Cracked by chao- on Tuesday July 24, 2012 @03:57AM (#4284769)
I have a lot of fun with my local Fry's and their "security checks". In reality all I do is briskly walk past, and wish them good morning/day/evening. Most of the time this throws them enough for the moment. They seem to do the math that they're not paid enough to deal with my shit. But the few times it has been raised as an issue, I've always (of course) properly paid for my merchandise.

I know it's a bit immature, but as a result of those minor confrontations, it always gives me the jollies every time I stroll out with just a "Good evening!"

Re:Tesco Discount Barcodes, Cracked by ConstantineXVI on Tuesday July 24, 2012 @12:39PM (#4286430)
We don't have Fry's on this side of the country. Our Best Buys has toughs right by the door, but they've never stopped me (then again, can't remember the last time I've bought anything particularly expensive from them vs. Amazon...)
Re:Tesco Discount Barcodes, Cracked by astrodust on Monday July 23, 2012 @09:12PM (#4283835)
How civilized. I bet you even schedule your tea times.
Re:Tesco Discount Barcodes, Cracked by b0 on Monday July 23, 2012 @03:26PM (#4282642)
It depends where you live. My local Tesco is like fort Knox as it is right next to a council estate.