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Re:Interview with Jeff Atwood, Co-Founder of Stack Overflow by alienthrowaway on Wednesday January 22, 2025 @04:57PM (#42797955)
> Here is a person who has the typical experience

This is bullshit: not seeing a bill is atypical in California. Parent is also bullshitting by saying it's easy to get a job with no-bills health insurance in CA, unless they are ignoring 98% of Californians.

Re:Interview with Jeff Atwood, Co-Founder of Stack Overflow by epistasis on Wednesday January 22, 2025 @06:14PM (#42798533)
Check out how Californians get their healthcare here:

https://www.chcf.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/10/HealthInsure...

Medicare and Medical are not going to see a bill ever (if the people I know on them are anything to go by), and that's almost 40% of the population. A huge majority of people on employer plans are in the same situation, so thats some fraction of the 47%. For example, nearly a quarter of Californians are covered by Kaiser. It's not some super rare privilege reserved for those making >$500k.

Re:Interview with Jeff Atwood, Co-Founder of Stack Overflow by wbl on Wednesday January 22, 2025 @06:44PM (#42798794)
No the fee for service system results in bills. It's the quarter on Kaiser that don't see bills.
Re:Interview with Jeff Atwood, Co-Founder of Stack Overflow by epistasis on Wednesday January 22, 2025 @08:37PM (#42799666)
I never see bills from my employer based healthcare, and it's not anything super fancy, and it's not Kaiser, just BC/BS. I had a surgery that billed my insurance in the tens of thousands of dollars and I never saw a bill. My spouse sees bills but it's because she has her physician order tests that are a bit outside well established medicine that would never be covered by NHS in the UK or Health Canada.

My relatives on Medical never see bills.

It's not just Kaiser.

Re:Interview with Jeff Atwood, Co-Founder of Stack Overflow by nradov on Thursday January 23, 2025 @12:04AM (#42800880)
Medicare patients get bills. There are deductibles and 20% co-insurance on most services. Inpatient care has a hard limit on number of days.

https://www.medicare.gov/basics/costs/medicare-costs