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Re:UK's elite hardware talent is being wasted by pjc50 on Monday January 20, 2025 @10:07AM (#42769449)
I used to live and work in Cambridge. In many ways it's a victim of its own success; people will, not unreasonably, argue that it's a beautiful little town of historic buildings, embedded in a primarily agricultural county of either prime agricultural land or protected wetland. They're not going to let you build Shenzen in Shelford no matter what the economic benefit might be. Meanwhile it's close enough to London that the property prices tick upwards to London commuter weighting.

(This is also why we have expensive electricity, because people oppose building any infrastructure. I'm coming round to the idea that there should just be county-by-county referendums where people have to pick either blanket allowing energy development or having a bill surcharge.)

Re:UK's elite hardware talent is being wasted by glompers on Monday January 20, 2025 @02:57PM (#42772413)
The wiki editor(s) who wrote the boosterish Economy subsection of the wiki page on Peterborough [1] (thirty miles away, same county) make it sound as though it is a growing area that does want to grow more.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peterborough

Re:UK's elite hardware talent is being wasted by pjc50 on Monday January 20, 2025 @05:40PM (#42773963)
I can tell that you've read the Wikipedia page rather than going to Peterborough.
Re:UK's elite hardware talent is being wasted by vanderZwan on Monday January 20, 2025 @05:53PM (#42774101)
Could you clarify how the vast majority of people in the world who will never set foot in Peterborough (including me) should interpret that?
Re:UK's elite hardware talent is being wasted by ajb on Monday January 20, 2025 @06:43PM (#42774544)
From the vantage point of Cambridge it has a reputation as a shithole, but I haven't been there either so would also like to know.

The county council covering the Cambridge area is actually based in Peterborough, and so effectively controls a lot of the countryside around Cambridge, as it is in charge of transport. So arguably the lack of development could be their fault as well.

Supposedly the government is plan is to reduce everywhere to one layer of local government (currently Cambridge is covered by both a county and district council). TBH the areas which are currently unitary seem to work a bit better but there's still massive opposition to building.

Re:UK's elite hardware talent is being wasted by dash2 on Tuesday January 21, 2025 @04:04AM (#42777920)
Surely even prime agricultural land is vastly (thousands of times?) less valuable than lab space for engineering companies.
Re:UK's elite hardware talent is being wasted by yurishimo on Tuesday January 21, 2025 @04:54AM (#42778213)
Only if you place no value on the land simply existing as it does now and providing aesthetic value. Most people privileged enough to sit on a planning council coincidentally also trend towards valuing peace and quiet and are hesitant to approve projects that may disrupt their assumed way of life.

From the outside looking in, rural UK council politics seems like the epitome of “I got mine so bug off”. I think this is one reason why London is becoming a super hub (among other reasons). London broke the ice and now they are trying to keep progressing but physical distance is becoming a limiting factor. Other municipalities will need to embrace change if they want to keep developing into a place where people want to live and work.

Re:UK's elite hardware talent is being wasted by TheOtherHobbes on Tuesday January 21, 2025 @05:36AM (#42778535)
All of the UK's cities - apart from museums like Oxford and Cambridge - are full of real estate investment sprawl. There is no reason some of those spaces couldn't be used as labs and light factories. In fact there are plenty of brown field conversion projects turning old mills (etc) into new light industry hubs.

The bigger problems in the UK are business rates (extortionate), profiteering by landlords and land owners, insanely expensive utilities, crumbling physical infrastructure, and Brexit.

We could have had a government that invested/fixed in all of those things, but the big landords and land owners decided they didn't like that idea. They'd prefer to keep the country struggling and backward, because it appeals to their sense of aristocratic self-importance.

Re:UK's elite hardware talent is being wasted by ben_w on Tuesday January 21, 2025 @08:29AM (#42779875)
Cambridge(shire) has also been forced to allow more real estate; Northstowe, Waterbeach New Town, the Eddington neighbourhood within Cambridge city limits, Springstead Village, even been a few noticeable changes around Cottenham.
Re:UK's elite hardware talent is being wasted by dash2 on Tuesday January 21, 2025 @12:40PM (#42782966)
> Only if you place no value on the land simply existing as it does now and providing aesthetic value.

A lot of Cambridgeshire is frankly flat, ugly monoculture.