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Re:TikTok says it is restoring service for U.S. users by zo1 on Monday January 20, 2025 @05:56AM (#42767351)
100% agree on this and go further; it rots their brain. We have to have the societal courage and guts to admit that it is conceptually the same as things like drugs/alcohol/smoking.

Then again, we lost that battle with misogynistic, language-rotting, and violent rap music because we were too worried about being called racists, so there might not be hope we'll do better this time around.

Re:TikTok says it is restoring service for U.S. users by zht on Monday January 20, 2025 @08:12AM (#42768348)
Do you think rap music has had more of an impact on society or democracy than TikTok or YouTube shorts or just Facebook?
Re:TikTok says it is restoring service for U.S. users by zo1 on Monday January 20, 2025 @09:07AM (#42768874)
I'd be pulling something out of thin air, but my opinion is that yes so far it has. Facebook and TikTok, and other social media, has served as an amplification mechanism for various things, including rap music.

But at this point, we also have a separate category of things that pretty much on their own are having a negative effect on society. That would be things like TikTok (including Instagram Reels, and Youtube Shorts).

The fact that they're not trying to come up with a new UI paradigm, or discovery mechanism is very telling. They keep focusing on semi-random swipe-directed discovery, and that tells me they're not interested in making the best content available to you as the interested-consumer. They want you wasting time and generating N-counts of redundant ad views/impressions/things before finding that one thing you wanted or might find interesting.

Youtube is probably the best at at-least trying to not force you to swipe (when watching normal videos). But even there, we can see how much people complain about "The Feed" or "The Algorithm". With all of Google's money and effort, they couldn't (or chose not to) find a better way at matching viewers with good content.

Re:TikTok says it is restoring service for U.S. users by sneak on Monday January 20, 2025 @09:13AM (#42768915)
Yes, rap music (and video games, and rock music, and comic books, and pinball machines) definitely ruined the world by rotting the childrens’ brains.

It wasn’t the gutting of the educational system, that’s far too simple an explanation.

Re:TikTok says it is restoring service for U.S. users by s1artibartfast on Monday January 20, 2025 @10:27AM (#42769630)
Your facetious comment is essentially correct. It all comes down to culture and parenting. The 'gutted' education system where I live spends 25k per student, which doesn't matter if kids never read a book.