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Re:UK's elite hardware talent is being wasted by eru on Sunday January 19, 2025 @11:36PM (#42765024)
> The UK lost Deep Mind - which could have been OpenAI!! -- to Google.

Deepmind is still in the UK. And more, including foreign, bidders driving up prices for acquisitions and investments, will lead to more people making the jump.

Re:UK's elite hardware talent is being wasted by chii on Sunday January 19, 2025 @11:40PM (#42765042)
> Deepmind is still in the UK

they dont mean location, they mean ownership of the equity.

Re:UK's elite hardware talent is being wasted by eru on Monday January 20, 2025 @02:00AM (#42765762)
Yes, but what does it matter? Google has equity owners all over the world, but we still treat them as an American company, too.
Re:UK's elite hardware talent is being wasted by porker on Monday January 20, 2025 @03:03AM (#42766116)
Profit goes out of the country, reducing investment and rich UK people to invest in new UK companies. It's the same problem with many of our companies being sold to foreign investors: profits are taken outside the country (as we did to other countries in the 19th century and earlier) so our labour enriches other countries while our country gets poorer.
Re:UK's elite hardware talent is being wasted by chii on Monday January 20, 2025 @03:50AM (#42766423)
> labour enriches other countries while our country gets poorer.

in reality, the UK isn't poorer than before. It is about the same - no growth. It is only poorer when compared to the US's growth.

One's labour, when being paid market rates, does not make one's country poorer. And those profits from said labour was paid for by the acquitition of the capital - money was invested.

So in essense, the "poorness" that the UK feels right now is not a result of these companies getting foreign ownership, but the UK gov't lack of industrial policy and investment. Brexit is the last straw probably.

Re:UK's elite hardware talent is being wasted by philipwhiuk on Monday January 20, 2025 @04:43AM (#42766839)
If the profits move out, the opportunity cost is that this money isn't spent in the UK which hits GDP which is how growth is calculated.
Re:UK's elite hardware talent is being wasted by eru on Monday January 20, 2025 @11:21AM (#42770129)
Remember: Google paid for Deepmind. Presumably the sellers aren't idiots.
Re:UK's elite hardware talent is being wasted by uncletammy on Monday January 20, 2025 @05:23AM (#42767127)
It is far poorer after you account for the brain drain and the opportunity cost of the brains that choose to remain.
Re:UK's elite hardware talent is being wasted by eru on Monday January 20, 2025 @11:23AM (#42770159)
> [...] but the UK gov't lack of industrial policy and investment.

That's a weird conclusion to draw.

Governments aren't generally known for their ability to pick winners ahead of time. How about instead of trying industrial policy (again), the UK could try to remove roadblocks that keep them from having successful companies?

They could also try to leave more money in the hands of taxpayers, so they can invest.

Re:UK's elite hardware talent is being wasted by eru on Monday January 20, 2025 @07:22AM (#42767951)
> Profit goes out of the country, reducing investment and rich UK people to invest in new UK companies.

Rich foreigners are happy to invest in the UK. See eg Deepmind itself, which was bought by Google.

> [...] so our labour enriches other countries while our country gets poorer.

Foreign investment is usually seen as a good thing. Especially foreign direct investment.

And: why do you care so much what passports these rich people hold?

Re:UK's elite hardware talent is being wasted by chii on Monday January 20, 2025 @02:09AM (#42765806)
i think you will find the majority owner of google are american.

And i'm not saying it matters - i'm saying that the OP is lamenting that the UK is no longer owning innovative companies.