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Re:TikTok goes dark in the US by do_not_redeem on Sunday January 19, 2025 @12:23AM (#42753946)
"If you have Facebook on your phone currently, it can track your whereabouts, it can read your text messages, it can track your keystrokes. It has access to your phone records."

If the United States government gets its hands on that information, "it's not just a national security threat, it's a personal security threat," Hawley (should have) said.

Re:TikTok goes dark in the US by wqaatwt on Sunday January 19, 2025 @03:29AM (#42755089)
And your point is? I mean you might agree or disagree but obviously the problem was a foreign entity controlling it and not the tracking part.

Also the keystroke part seem technically entirely not true and location is only partially correct.

Re:TikTok goes dark in the US by Sabinus on Sunday January 19, 2025 @01:39AM (#42754385)
The US government is motivated to have their citizens content and productive.

The Chinese government is motivated to have US citizens angry and unproductive.

While productivity and happiness are not the same thing, I am personally far less worried about how my government would influence me than how China would influence me.

Re:TikTok goes dark in the US by ascorbic on Sunday January 19, 2025 @02:39AM (#42754768)
Do you think X was trying to make US citizens angry or content?
Re:TikTok goes dark in the US by sterlind on Sunday January 19, 2025 @02:09AM (#42754597)
I'm quite worried about both, but at least I can (in theory) vote on my US overlords, at least.
Re:TikTok goes dark in the US by johnnyanmac on Sunday January 19, 2025 @04:49AM (#42755572)
>The US government is motivated to have their citizens content and productive.

meanwhile, we're

- pretending that inflation has landed and is not being resisted by the Feds

- deregulating all the anti-trust accomplishments we made over the years to drive up prices

- pantomiming at best the idea of affordable housing as housing prices surge

- increasing homelessness and unemployment nationwide Something the modern job market does not help with as more job postings than not are fake to hire non-americans (or no one at all).

- deporting immigrants while Trump likely grants even more H1B-s to billionares,

- starting multiple trade wars because Trump is showing the definition of insanity by imposing tariffs again. When last time we lost thousands of jobs and billions of dollars over it.

But yes, banning the chinese app that actually gave some income to young american citizens suffering the worst from the above was done in a snap, relatively speaking. I'm ambivalent on the actual ban, but I can't blame american tiktok users being absolutely fervent with the bald-face hypocrisy going on.

Re:TikTok goes dark in the US by roca on Sunday January 19, 2025 @05:37AM (#42755827)
Tiktok influencer income was never going to solve any economic problems in a meaningful way.
Re:TikTok goes dark in the US by johnnyanmac on Sunday January 19, 2025 @01:41PM (#42760098)
No, but it went in the right direction. Unlike everything else with the economy as of late (if you don't have the spare money to gamble in stocks.
Re:TikTok goes dark in the US by roca on Sunday January 19, 2025 @02:43PM (#42760938)
Wage growth has exceeded inflation in the USA for the whole of 2024. https://www.statista.com/statistics/1351276/wage-growth-vs-i...

Real wages in all income brackets are at an all-time high (apart from a short blip during the pandemic), and overall have surged since the start of the pandemic. See e.g. https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/employed-full-tim....

Re:TikTok goes dark in the US by johnnyanmac on Sunday January 19, 2025 @03:48PM (#42761640)
Real wages but not buying power. And that ignores all the unemployment rate rising (U-3 and U-6). If you had a job and kept it in 2024, you're only slightly better off than 2023 and probably slightly worse than 2022.

If you don't been devastating. Now watch it go down in 2025 and unemployment get worse for Americans as well.