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Re:TikTok goes dark in the US by jmyeet on Saturday January 18, 2025 @10:58PM (#42753426)
So I used a VPN to go to a different country and... I still get the "Tiktok banned" message, which is a little surprisingly honestly. I guess Tiktok have done this on an account basis rather than strictly GeoIP.

The "learn more" link tells you that you can still download your data. I'm not sure how. Website maybe? Because the app only has "learn more" and "close app" as options. Interestingly the fyp still loads and you see a video in the background.

I do think it'll come back this week but it's not clear what the legal mechanism is. Since the ban has gone into effect the extension in the law doesn't seem to apply anymore. This would then seem to require Congressional action and there doesn't seem to be much appetite for that but maybe that's because Republicans in Congress want to give credit for saving Tiktok to Trump when he becomes president on Monday.

Another option being talked about is nonenforcement by the Department of Justice. Some dismiss this by saying "the DoJ can change their mind" but that's not strictly true. Defendants in a case can rely on statements by prosecutors. It's a valid defense. If the Attorney-General makes an official statement saying "we will not prosecute Amazon or Google or Tiktok for 90 days (or whatever) while we work this out", that's absolutely a legal defense should the DoJ ever change their mind.

Basically, this is now a shakedown as some Trump allies will seek forcibly buy Tiktok or at least a large stake in it as a price for its continued operation in the US. It's unclear if Tiktok will acquiesce to this.

Remember though, Bytedance has significant US investors so there are conflicting forces at play here.

Re:TikTok goes dark in the US by trescenzi on Saturday January 18, 2025 @11:01PM (#42753449)
The website works for me behind a VPN. It’s likely they are using the device’s actual location with the app.
Re:TikTok goes dark in the US by tanghulu on Saturday January 18, 2025 @11:16PM (#42753528)
I think they go by your SIM information or at least that's how they've done it for other regions. Try turning off your eSIM or taking your SIM card out.
Re:TikTok goes dark in the US by kylehotchkiss on Saturday January 18, 2025 @10:58PM (#42753431)
Might just be your device lang and timezone too.
Re:TikTok goes dark in the US by ace22b on Saturday January 18, 2025 @11:07PM (#42753485)
Signing up for a new non-US account works fine.

As soon as I try to login to my US account it bricks the app.

YMMV.

Re:TikTok goes dark in the US by jmyeet on Saturday January 18, 2025 @11:04PM (#42753467)
I did change my Region to another and using a VPN and still get it but yeah, I suspect they're looking at something extra from the device.
Re:TikTok goes dark in the US by abotsis on Saturday January 18, 2025 @11:13PM (#42753517)
Is this a big surprise? The law banning it was rooted in national security, presumably because of location tracking. Them knowing where users are was kind of the problem…
Re:TikTok goes dark in the US by jonahhorowitz on Saturday January 18, 2025 @11:25PM (#42753585)
Of course anyone who wanted to, including the Chinese, could just buy that exact data from data brokers in the US. It's readily available.[0] Nobody really believes this was about data.

[0] - https://www.404media.co/candy-crush-tinder-myfitnesspal-see-...

Re:TikTok goes dark in the US by tantalor on Saturday January 18, 2025 @11:16PM (#42753529)
No. Canada exists.
Re:TikTok goes dark in the US by ekwav on Monday January 20, 2025 @04:37AM (#42766789)
Usually the device language is reported with the country attached, should be en_CA or fr_CA.
Re:TikTok goes dark in the US by qingcharles on Sunday January 19, 2025 @03:55AM (#42755243)
VPN works on desktop if you open a new account.

I found another USA refugee on Canadian TikTok who said he just got Apple to change his app store country and it worked after he redownloaded it.