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Re:atproto and the ownership of identity by immibis on Saturday January 18, 2025 @05:42PM (#42752008)
Government intelligence agencies, which can print passports at will, will be able to create millions of fake accounts, while the rest of us will be limited to just one. It's a similar problem to the money-given-to-charity idea: when you trust any actor to enforce identity, you're trusting them to enforce identity.
Re:atproto and the ownership of identity by dom96 on Saturday January 18, 2025 @06:23PM (#42752254)
I don't really think being resistant to evil governments is within scope here. Using passports isn't perfect, but practically speaking it's a hell of a lot better than what we have now which is a free for all.
Re:atproto and the ownership of identity by lxgr on Saturday January 18, 2025 @11:28PM (#42753606)
It only takes a single government losing their signing keys (through whatever means) to break such a scheme.

And if that happens, what do you do? Deny service to that country's citizens?

Re:atproto and the ownership of identity by dom96 on Sunday January 19, 2025 @04:45AM (#42755548)
How often does something like this happen? In that scenario there are a number of options though, one of which is just putting a banner on accounts that are impacted.
Re:atproto and the ownership of identity by lxgr on Sunday January 19, 2025 @02:09PM (#42760466)
More often than you might think. The EU COVID-19 immunology status certificate scheme saw some fraudulent issuances, for example.

And "putting a banner on impacted accounts" both partially deanonymizes and effectively bans legitimate users for no fault of their own.

Travel documents are not a digital identity scheme, and using the ICAO biometric travel document scheme contrary to its explicit design goals is just asking for trouble.

Re:atproto and the ownership of identity by immibis on Sunday January 19, 2025 @07:29AM (#42756445)
Consider the theory that Russian-government-sponsored bots ran wild with COVID disinformation. It doesn't matter whether you actually believe that theory or not - just consider it. If you allow Russian passports as a valid identification source, then Russia would have no problem running that operation. The same applies to every country of course.
Re:atproto and the ownership of identity by dom96 on Sunday January 19, 2025 @11:42AM (#42758610)
Yeah, and this is why we capture the country that issued the passport we verified. Worst case we can add a feature that allows users to share which passport country they used. And yes, this will mean that Russian users will be screwed unfortunately.