The same could ba said for CPUs from Intel and AMD 5 years ago. Now people, myself included, buy AMD because it is simply the better choice.

The difference with AMD and Intel when zen launched is that AMD launched a product that utterly destroyed Intel’s line up in productivity workloads. Zen 1 launched with double the cores of the competing intel chip at the same price point. The benchmarks were a bloodbath and intel struggled to respond with a competitive product for 4 years. Arguably they still haven’t caught up. AMD just brutally out executed Intel.

Doing that to nvidia would be a tall order

Core wise Intel had the advantage until the last generation or two. The same can be true for gpus, just add a ton more memory and watch them fly off the shelves.

Intel P cores still do well against amd zen5. But their stacking cache is chef's kiss.

> The same can be true for gpus, just add a ton more memory and watch them fly off the shelves.

Yeah... for datacenters and people attempting to jump on the AI hype train. Meanwhile your everyday regular gamer has zero chance competing for GPUs with the infinite money coffers from AI.

Seriously, the sooner this crazy bubble bursts the better. I thought the shitcoin mining days were bad but at least everyone back then knew the game for GPUs was over once the first Bitcoin ASIC was released, but now? No end in sight and frankly I'm pissed.

The AI bubble will burst the same way the internet bubble did:

First explosively, then never.

Intel can match or outperform Zen 5 in many benchmarks (X3D still trashes them in games) and are trading blows now, they just have to use double the power envelope to do it.

Arc and Battlemage are not very competitive designs with AMD going off die size and transistor count compared to the performance numbers they're posting. Battlemage pricing however is quite good on price to performance, but again suffers from efficiency where AMD has them beat by quite a margin.

It can change quickly. Great example is the short domination of the ati 9700 that crushed nvidia for a short while.

> If, by the grace of tech Jesus, amd gave us such systems at volumes Nvidia would notice, Nvidia would simply then do the same but with a better ecosystem.

Not if they have "a better ecosystem" -- they would continue to charge a premium for that.

Which creates a dilemma for Nvidia. If they would match AMD's pricing, they'd be losing all the money they could get by charging more, which is a ton. Whereas if they charge more, they get more today from the people who pay the premium, but some people are more price sensitive than others, so there are still a lot of people who would buy "lots of VRAM for less money" from AMD. And soon AMD has a lot of users, improves their software support and the difference disappears entirely.

Forcing the larger competitor into that dilemma is very much to the advantage of the smaller competitor.