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Re:Supreme Court rules to uphold TikTok ban, setting stage f... by Retric on Friday January 17, 2025 @11:31AM (#42739796)
Being fluent is a different question, you can dream in English without it being your native language.

first language = A first language (L1), native language, native tongue, or mother tongue is the first language a person has been exposed to from birth

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_language

Re:Supreme Court rules to uphold TikTok ban, setting stage f... by JumpCrisscross on Friday January 17, 2025 @11:39AM (#42739942)
Yes, we understand what a first language is. You should understand why that’s irrelevant to this discussion.
Re:Supreme Court rules to uphold TikTok ban, setting stage f... by lcnPylGDnU4H9OF on Friday January 17, 2025 @12:13PM (#42740572)
You know, they weren't the one to bring it up and their point seems to have consistently been that the majority of the global population does not speak English.
Re:Supreme Court rules to uphold TikTok ban, setting stage f... by JumpCrisscross on Friday January 17, 2025 @12:31PM (#42740842)
Plurality of the world (25%) and a larger plurality of the internet-connected world (37%, [1]) speak English. (Granted, most of TikTok’s market now probably doesn’t speak English.)

[1] https://www.itu.int/en/ITU-D/Statistics/pages/stat/default.a...

Re:Supreme Court rules to uphold TikTok ban, setting stage f... by lcnPylGDnU4H9OF on Friday January 17, 2025 @02:12PM (#42742113)
> majority of the global population does not speak English

> Plurality of the world ... speak English

Sorry, what point are you trying to make?

Re:Supreme Court rules to uphold TikTok ban, setting stage f... by Retric on Friday January 17, 2025 @12:47PM (#42741066)
Which was my original comment…
Re:Supreme Court rules to uphold TikTok ban, setting stage f... by lelanthran on Saturday January 18, 2025 @02:26AM (#42746581)
> You know, they weren't the one to bring it up and their point seems to have consistently been that the majority of the global population does not speak English.

While that has consistently been their point, it's also wrong.

Their bar for "speaking English" is "Native Language". Absolutely no one uses that as a bar when talking about how many people can consume content in $LANGUAGE.

Re:Supreme Court rules to uphold TikTok ban, setting stage f... by lcnPylGDnU4H9OF on Saturday January 18, 2025 @11:19AM (#42749392)
That is not their bar. Read this more carefully:

> 1/3 of the global population is at all, there’s only 380 million native English speakers.

1/3 of the population speaks English “at all” (by which they mean speaking fluently, not learning) and 380 million people (roughly 5% of the population) is native.

Not trying to throw shade at anyone but it’s really... not hard for a reader to pause a little when one reads something that sounds wrong; it’s possible the reader misread. It’s even in the guidelines under different words:

> Please respond to the strongest plausible interpretation of what someone says, not a weaker one that's easier to criticize. Assume good faith.

There was a lot of failure to follow to this guideline in this comment thread.