Re:Spain proposes 100% tax on homes bought by non-EU residents
by kasey_junk on Monday January 13, 2025 @07:04PM
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But you also need to measure the dampening impact on home building.
If builders would have built N units knowing they could easily sell some % them to foreign buyers but now they can’t, then you might lose the whole supply. And all the knock on effects for contractors, suppliers, etc
Re:Spain proposes 100% tax on homes bought by non-EU residents
by Retric on Monday January 13, 2025 @07:12PM
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Cities are rarely constrained by the willingness of someone to build housing, it’s generally more an issue of being allowed to build housing.
Re:Spain proposes 100% tax on homes bought by non-EU residents
by crooked-v on Monday January 13, 2025 @07:20PM
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For the most extreme example just look at San Francisco here in the US, where the average number of legally-allowed new housing units is currently around 3.5 total per month (https://sfstandard.com/2024/04/08/san-francisco-new-housing-...) in a city of 873,000 people.
Re:Spain proposes 100% tax on homes bought by non-EU residents
by kasey_junk on Monday January 13, 2025 @08:00PM
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Cities typically don’t have draconian taxes on real estate.
Re:Spain proposes 100% tax on homes bought by non-EU residents
by Retric on Tuesday January 14, 2025 @08:51AM
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~0.1% of real estate. If the major concern is these rules change nothing then that applies to both upsides and downsides.
Re:Spain proposes 100% tax on homes bought by non-EU residents
by kasey_junk on Tuesday January 14, 2025 @04:06PM
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No the issue with activities that constrain supply is that they might constrain more supply than the explicit units impacted by the policy.
Re:Spain proposes 100% tax on homes bought by non-EU residents
by Retric on Tuesday January 14, 2025 @04:37PM
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This very slightly constrains demand not supply.
At most the knock on effects might impacts supply, but that’s up to the market to decide.
Re:Spain proposes 100% tax on homes bought by non-EU residents
by kasey_junk on Tuesday January 14, 2025 @04:58PM
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The impact on the market is precisely the concern. I’ve not seen any studies that show how taxing market participants differently impacts the supply in real estate. So I don’t have strong convictions one way or the other. But you can craft a narrative that foreign buyers are higher margin customers so drive builders to create at higher then their participation rate.
But more generally if you want more of something, generally I’m suspicious of efforts that make that thing more expensive.
Re:Spain proposes 100% tax on homes bought by non-EU residents
by Retric on Tuesday January 14, 2025 @06:29PM
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You’re simply ignoring scale here.
Having what in practice is probably 1 in ~5,000 fewer customers has negligible impact on a housing market. That’s assuming many foreigners who would be buying a 3rd home will probably substitute longer term rentals but it’s not zero and from the perspective of customers any movement is positive here.
Re:Spain proposes 100% tax on homes bought by non-EU residents
by aaronblohowiak on Monday January 13, 2025 @07:39PM
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Pedantic nit: dampening is to wet, damping is to subdue oscillations.
Re:Spain proposes 100% tax on homes bought by non-EU residents
by egwor on Monday January 13, 2025 @07:03PM
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I think I read 20,000,000 need housing and this will impact 20,000 per year so broadly the numbers are inline.
Re:Spain proposes 100% tax on homes bought by non-EU residents
by throwaway2037 on Monday January 13, 2025 @11:22PM
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How can 20M be even remotely correct? Spain has a total population of about 48M.
Re:Spain proposes 100% tax on homes bought by non-EU residents
by renewiltord on Monday January 13, 2025 @07:12PM
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Yeah, you have 0.1% of a house, sure. But do that across a thousand houses and you have 100% of the houses. It's that simple.
But, equally important is simply the number of natives prevented from buying the home they want because someone is getting a vacation property.