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Re:Darkest and clearest skies at risk from industrial megapr... by topspin on Sunday January 12, 2025 @04:01PM (#42676893)
> green hydrogen in a fossil fuel shill talking point

I'll stipulate that. Apparently, however, that signal hasn't yet reached the establishment Powers That Be. Otherwise they wouldn't hesitate to name it, and instead employ euphemisms like "huge industrial complex" and "industrial megaproject." If this were some evil, no good, very bad mining operation or gas and oil field, this would be featured prominently in all of the reporting.

Instead, we get euphemisms. One report I read used the term "electrical generation units." A coal plant? Nat gas? No. If it were any of those things "they" would say so, in clear, bright terms everyone would be happy to hate on. But it's wind and solar, so "they" carefully demur.

It's not any sort of conspiracy, mind you. Everyone just somehow knows that wind and solar is sacred and must be spoken of with only the greatest deference.

Re:Darkest and clearest skies at risk from industrial megapr... by kurthr on Sunday January 12, 2025 @05:04PM (#42677419)
I can really understand. It's quite clever marketing and non-experts (media and politicians) are quite easily drawn in. Then of course, they can't admit they're wrong so they'll build a multi $B boondoggle with little to show at the end.

And maybe they'll destroy the dark skies while they're at it. Lot's of horrible outcomes are just stupid mistakes that profit no one. If they CAN discredit solar for a while longer then more money for them.