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Re:Living with HTTPS by jenseng on Thursday July 19, 2012 @01:50PM (#4267193)
I should clarify, I was referring to the first visit to the site. So yes, I can see how this greatly reduces the vulnerability, though it doesn't completely remove it.

As an example, a rogue Apple Store employee could insert him self as a MITM between the access point and the internet connection. Anyone testing out a new laptop in the store (or logging in to their bank from a just-activated iphone) would be vulnerable, without the attacker ever having touched any of those devices.

Re:Living with HTTPS by tptacek on Thursday July 19, 2012 @01:52PM (#4267202)
There are a lot of real security issues HSTS doesn't protect against. But for its miniscule cost, it does a very good job of protecting against one specific real threat.
Re:Living with HTTPS by jenseng on Thursday July 19, 2012 @01:54PM (#4267217)
I guess the real lessons there for users is "don't do anything sensitive on a device that's not yours. or on one you just acquired, unless you trust every hop between you and the server". But users generally don't know/care/think about these things :)