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Re:Meta's memo to employees rolling back DEI programs by water9 on Saturday January 11, 2025 @03:10AM (#42664229)
Why is make America great again so offensive? For African-Americans, the wealthiest they ever were was during the reconstruction era in the 1870s. That was because after the war, there was a shortage of skilled laborers and so they were in great demand. So this, Misnomer that make America great again is racist makes no sense. Good people don’t teach you to hate other people, remember that. You can’t do the same thing evil people do without becoming the thing that you hate. Morality is not relative. Morality is not Machiavellian
Re:Meta's memo to employees rolling back DEI programs by intended on Saturday January 11, 2025 @03:27AM (#42664309)
Without context nothing is offensive.

I have no problems with Tan suits for example.

Good people don’t tell you to hate, sure?

They do tell you to take care of yourself and to protect yourself. That some people are evil and should be stopped.

Bad people sound like good people and use different words to achieve the same goals.

Re:Meta's memo to employees rolling back DEI programs by ouEight12 on Saturday January 11, 2025 @11:21AM (#42666870)
>That some people are evil and should be stopped.

That's the rhetoric of both sides though, isn't it?

the only difference is in who the far left vs far right each believe "should be stopped".

Re:Meta's memo to employees rolling back DEI programs by intended on Sunday January 12, 2025 @03:06PM (#42676427)
>That's the rhetoric of both sides though, isn't it?

yes, thats why I chose it.

I think the point slipped past, we started with you saying MAGA is innocent.

I pointed out that words have context. I gave an example of innocent words, which can be used by bad people, to sound just.

MAGA, is in this category.

Its not considered innocent, and most people will assume that you are being false or misleading when you say "i dont know why this is bad".

Its kinda like showing a Man U flag in an Arsenal town - its impolite. One is expected to have the awareness of how their team is behaving and perceived.

I mean, its your team, of course you should know everything about it, from its good PR to its bad PR.

Re:Meta's memo to employees rolling back DEI programs by water9 on Monday January 13, 2025 @05:14PM (#42690182)
the issue is that the other side applied a context to it that is not the same context people who created it mean. So you’re taking your own interpretation applying it to somebody else’s saying and turning it into a negative thing even though that’s not what they mean by it. And then you are lambasting them for your own negative connotation applied to what they think is a positive thing.
Re:Meta's memo to employees rolling back DEI programs by etchalon on Saturday January 11, 2025 @05:50AM (#42664975)
You're implying Black Americans should be thankful to return to an era where they were slightly wealthier, but had fewer rights, fewer protections and enormous, normalization, socially acceptable discrimination.
Re:Meta's memo to employees rolling back DEI programs by water9 on Wednesday January 15, 2025 @10:25PM (#42720731)
No, I’m simply stating that the phrase make America great again is not racist in and of itself. I don’t think it’s debatable that American education and test scores have decreased significantly compared to other countries. When applied in that context to make America great again at educating then there’s no racial context. People are reading what they want to see into the message or more specifically what they want to denigrate
Re:Meta's memo to employees rolling back DEI programs by amanaplanacanal on Saturday January 11, 2025 @06:03AM (#42665028)
Are you saying Make America Great Again means a return to the 1870s?