News for hackers. Stuff that matters.
Re:How do you backup your Android? by troyvit on Thursday January 09, 2025 @06:12PM (#42650804)
I don't have root on my android and I try to avoid using any FAANG's infrastructure. A few weeks ago I bricked my phone and lost a bunch of data because I only backed up my photos. More on that in a sec, but the big thing I learned is how much stuff on my phone I didn't miss once it was gone and how much I did miss.

App backup? who cares? This was a chance for me to see what's new on F-Droid and it's been great (lookin' at you keyboard.futo.org).

I back up my photos using termux, rsync, and rsync.net. This model seems pretty solid. I should extend it to app data, but I don't have an automated way to back up app data yet. It's just a thing I have to do when I think of it, which is a recipe for disaster.

I'm taking syncthing out of the picture. I was using it to share markdown, html and some graphics between devices and my phone, but I regularly end up diffing .conflict files. I hope to get better behavior from Nextcloud.

Still, I'm the same happy guy I was before December 30 so I think a few manual app data back-ups, back-ups for non-photo content to Nextcloud so I can share it between devices more easily, and the same old rsync stuff for photos should work great.

Re:How do you backup your Android? by rsync on Thursday January 09, 2025 @06:28PM (#42650918)
"I back up my photos using termux, rsync, and rsync.net. This model seems pretty solid."

This is a common workflow.

In addition to termux/rsync we do see a number of people using syncopoli.

FWIW, my personal phone is an iphone and I use the excellent 'iexplorer' to browse the phone as if it were a filesystem.

Re:How do you backup your Android? by fullstick on Thursday January 09, 2025 @06:57PM (#42651091)
Can you share resources on how to backup through termux? I hadn't thought of that.
Re:How do you backup your Android? by troyvit on Thursday January 09, 2025 @10:26PM (#42652139)
I wrote a how-to!

https://troyvit.net/2023/01/backing-up-android-to-rsync-net/

It has one error. termux-job-scheduler isn't a separate install.

Re:How do you backup your Android? by choobacker on Friday January 10, 2025 @01:46AM (#42653259)
One extra tip is to use rrsync to restrict which folders your rsync client can read/write to: https://b.tuxes.uk/termux-rsync-photos.html

This helps mitigate ransomware, and escalation (e.g. reading previously backed up files) attacks.

Re:How do you backup your Android? by troyvit on Friday January 10, 2025 @11:15AM (#42656943)
Nice, thank you!
Re:How do you backup your Android? by snapplebobapple on Thursday January 09, 2025 @09:29PM (#42651886)
try flickboard. once it stops melting your brain it is awesome
Re:How do you backup your Android? by udev4096 on Friday January 10, 2025 @12:29AM (#42652830)
Stop using F-droid. It is insecure and shouldn't be the primary way of installing apps. Stick to Aurora Store or Play Store
Re:How do you backup your Android? by vroomik on Friday January 10, 2025 @01:15AM (#42653100)
Could you elaborate on that? Do you mean bigger possibility of apps containg malware or what?
Re:How do you backup your Android? by Timshel on Friday January 10, 2025 @04:03AM (#42653948)
The handling of the project appears quite troubling, the whole board resigned last year: https://gitlab.com/fdroid/admin/-/issues/447
Re:How do you backup your Android? by udev4096 on Friday January 10, 2025 @01:31AM (#42653176)
https://privsec.dev/posts/android/f-droid-security-issues/, the recent findings of bypass of certificate pinning [0], wireguard creator doesn't trust f-droid himself [1], continued harmful attacks to GrapheneOS devs [2] and a few more points regarding their build infra using a deprecated debian release.

[0] https://www.openwall.com/lists/oss-security/2024/04/08/8

[1] https://gitlab.com/fdroid/fdroiddata/-/issues/3110#note_1613...

[2] https://gitlab.com/ironfox-oss/IronFox/-/issues/7#note_22877...

Re:How do you backup your Android? by orbital-decay on Friday January 10, 2025 @12:52AM (#42652966)
Why is it insecure?
Re:How do you backup your Android? by npteljes on Friday January 10, 2025 @05:48AM (#42654534)
I read your sources, and one, as a user, I'll let these people sort out their drama among themselves, two, the security issues of the apps that are downloaded I think are way higher potentially than the ones in F-Droid in itself. With these considerations, F-droid is fine as a way of installing apps. Just as fine as any other technically imperfect service, business, or product that we use daily. In fact, I consider it higher than average in quality.
Re:How do you backup your Android? by GoblinSlayer on Friday January 10, 2025 @01:48AM (#42653274)
I just did tar / | netcat