no. not really. The spread of the viewline fire was contained, the getty villa was saved, the hurst fire is being contained were on top of the sunset one pretty quickly. There was one in culver city and woodley that they quashed quickly as well. They got the divide fire from igniting angeles national forest and the lidia is mostly contained as well. The royal fire is about where the 2018 fire was and that was taken down as well today as was the sunswept, freddy, and emma fire.

If you've been following this, they've done a fairly amazing job at knocking out maybe a dozen fires in the past two days. Many of these had the potential to be giant infernos and you can actively see very clear evidence of them being contained and suppressed as the fire crews responded.

The evacuation orders and rescue operations were also effective and remarkably little life has been lost.

There's plenty of direct material evidence to demonstrate the efficacy of fire fighting.

On the contrary, there's things like the 1992 Watts truce, which is credited with a rapid decline in LA street violence, where law enforcement was not a participant of.

So unlike with say fire-fighting, there's empirically more effective strategies for dealing with crime. They do, however, require us to not be ideologically committed to punitive incarceration.