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Re:Online Behavioral Ads Fuel the Surveillance Industry by thewanderer1983 on Tuesday January 07, 2025 @07:14PM (#42629374)
I agree in a world of data surveillance, techniques that obfuscate, like you have mentioned are ideal. The problem with this form of obfuscation is it also impacts other industries (legitimate functions) including areas of national security. Therefore I imagine it will be met with resistance, if any useful tools become widespread in use.

For example, faking traffic jam data for google maps with phones. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-02-04/man-creates-fake-traf...

Faking wifi and location data to unlock airpods pro in India. https://www.reddit.com/r/AirpodsPro/comments/1gqscig/two_guy...

DataPools is a Wi-Fi geolocation spoofing project that virtually relocates your phone to the latitudes and longitudes of Silicon Valley’s elite pools. https://adam.harvey.studio/datapools/

These are just a couple of fun examples, obviously you could augment these with LLM/DL tools and other anti-censorship (mixer, DCnets etc ), bot(nets) tools to create multiple identities that post in other languages, create fake photos of your in various countries, to make it hard to follow.

Re:Online Behavioral Ads Fuel the Surveillance Industry by JohnMakin on Tuesday January 07, 2025 @07:39PM (#42629570)
> The problem with this form of obfuscation is it also impacts other industries (legitimate functions) including areas of national security.

I'm aware that "national security" is often invoked in these types of discussions, and a little aware more than I think the general populace at how valuable some of this data is to intelligence operations. However, I would counter that by saying perhaps someone should consider whether it's a problem that such "critical" national security functions belong in the hands of companies that control the flow of such data for profit to anyone with a pocketbook, and ponder whether this is actually working to cause net help or harm for national security. I would argue strongly the latter, to the profitability of the people that control such data and contribute a lot of money to the elections of people that put forth their agendas, but this isn't the place to do so.

Re:Online Behavioral Ads Fuel the Surveillance Industry by thewanderer1983 on Wednesday January 08, 2025 @03:31AM (#42632240)
I agree with your conclusion. There have been similar discussions around backdoors and “lawful intercept” systems in the past. The intelligent argument didn't win there either. Then you get Salt Typhoon, and maybe people will rethink them.
Re:Online Behavioral Ads Fuel the Surveillance Industry by thewanderer1983 on Thursday January 09, 2025 @04:13PM (#42649845)
Some areas you might want to consider looking into.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Differential_privacy

https://vitalik.eth.limo/general/2022/06/15/using_snarks.htm...

Obviously this requires companies to embrace said technologies.

Re:Online Behavioral Ads Fuel the Surveillance Industry by alphan0n on Wednesday January 08, 2025 @05:56PM (#42639413)
>DataPools is a Wi-Fi geolocation spoofing project that virtually relocates your phone to the latitudes and longitudes of Silicon Valley’s elite pools. https://adam.harvey.studio/datapools/

That is hilarious and should be expanded.