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Re:I am rich and have no idea what to do by angoragoats on Friday January 03, 2025 @01:06PM (#42587967)
So do you agree with me that the statement "consciousness transcends evolutionary necessity" is not necessarily correct?
Re:I am rich and have no idea what to do by coffeecantcode on Friday January 03, 2025 @01:10PM (#42588011)
From that point yeah, “transcends evolutionary necessity” like you said, is a positive claim.

More accurate to my intent would be “consciousness is untethered by evolutionary necessity” maybe?

Re:I am rich and have no idea what to do by angoragoats on Friday January 03, 2025 @02:05PM (#42588501)
This is just changing your phrasing to say the same thing. It's still a claim unsupported by evidence.

My contention is that the absolute most we can say about the topic of the evolution of consciousness is "we don't yet know how or why consciousness evolved."

Re:I am rich and have no idea what to do by coffeecantcode on Friday January 03, 2025 @02:09PM (#42588549)
And we’re not in disagreement there, my grounds for originally giving the example was only in the fact that consciousness is a prerequisite for spirituality to occur. I was really only saying that it is unique to humans and allows for abstract thought on the human condition.

I respect your contention but I think we’re going in circles over semantics now.

Re:I am rich and have no idea what to do by angoragoats on Sunday January 05, 2025 @06:34PM (#42606009)
> consciousness is a prerequisite for spirituality to occur

Using your definition of spirituality, this is a tautology.

I don’t see how we were going in circles; I was simply trying to get you to realize that something that seemed important to our discussion which you claimed as “fact” is about as far from fact as can be. Take care!