Re:Tell HN: Impassable Cloudflare challenges are ruining my ...
by EGreg on Thursday January 02, 2025 @01:55PM
(#42577470)
I honestly don't see what's so hard about a bot simulating "the norm" within the margin of error. This cat-and-mouse game is just like a GAN, the end result is indistinguishable even by a bot.
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Re:Tell HN: Impassable Cloudflare challenges are ruining my ...
by viraptor on Thursday January 02, 2025 @02:18PM
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It depends on the defences. It starts trivial - just make a http request. Then there's http version, user agent header, other headers, header ordering, cookies, TLS ciphers, session resolution, timing, behaviour for page resources, ... and so many other things. It takes time, even if you order headless chrome.
Re:Tell HN: Impassable Cloudflare challenges are ruining my ...
by nullc on Thursday January 02, 2025 @02:02PM
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Bot authors are lazy and won't until they have to.. once you do, you can then pretend they aren't bots and include them in the engagement numbers you feed prospective shareholders.
Re:Tell HN: Impassable Cloudflare challenges are ruining my ...
by tokioyoyo on Thursday January 02, 2025 @02:07PM
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Agreed. From my past experiences though, a very good chunk of them will give up once there is a resistance. Basically, you want your bot protection to just be a little better than your competitor. Then the bot author will target them instead, because of the path of least resistance.