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Re:Interesting Interview with DeepSeek's CEO by cced on Tuesday December 31, 2024 @10:33AM (#42559284)
Exactly. Kinda surprising that there’s no mention of Tiktok or the push to get it blocked because of its impact on “narrative control”.

Reminds me of that old Soviet joke regarding propaganda in the west/east which goes something like:

> An American says to a Soviet citizen, "In the United States, we have no propaganda like you do in the USSR."

> The Soviet citizen responds, "Exactly! In the USSR, we know it's propaganda."

Re:Interesting Interview with DeepSeek's CEO by bobxmax on Tuesday December 31, 2024 @11:53AM (#42559916)
This is so bang on. What's so insiduous about the West is how inundated everybody is with propaganda, but there's plausible deniability built into the system that everybody believes they're a free thinker.

Reddit is a good example - one of the biggest aggregators and disseminators of information for tens of millions of people, primarily in the West. People who see themselves as above-average intelligence. Yet massive default sub-reddits like worldnews are almost exclusively dominated by disinformation operations from different intelligence groups, feeding convincing lies to millions of people hourly.

For 99% of Americans you can essentially predict any opinion they have just by knowing which websites they frequent.

Re:Interesting Interview with DeepSeek's CEO by pphysch on Tuesday December 31, 2024 @01:31PM (#42560701)
/r/worldnews is a great example of the potency of American propaganda.

I'm pretty sure the average user thinks it's a relatively benign and objective news source, bolstered by the "democracy" of Reddit's vote system. And that couldn't be further from the truth.

Re:Interesting Interview with DeepSeek's CEO by bobxmax on Tuesday December 31, 2024 @07:38PM (#42562997)
Yep. That's the best example - completely inundated with government propaganda, and yet millions of people are freely consuming it daily and shaping their world view around it.

When you look at Reddit CEO's board affiliations, it starts to become clear this is not accidental.

Re:Interesting Interview with DeepSeek's CEO by corimaith on Wednesday January 01, 2025 @12:00AM (#42564075)
It's funny how a poster talking about Westerners are completely inundated with propaganda has made previous comments such as:

"The Chinese government treated the pandemic as a bioweapon attack by a foreign adversary engaged in a broader hybrid war, and it did so effectively"

Re:Interesting Interview with DeepSeek's CEO by bobxmax on Wednesday January 01, 2025 @02:06PM (#42568321)
I don't know what you're talking about.
Re:Interesting Interview with DeepSeek's CEO by pphysch on Thursday January 02, 2025 @01:03PM (#42576874)
What is inaccurate about that comment?
Re:Interesting Interview with DeepSeek's CEO by pmarreck on Friday January 03, 2025 @01:04AM (#42582972)
That's just a factual statement. He wasn't agreeing with it, promoting it or lying about it. So... What, again?
Re:Interesting Interview with DeepSeek's CEO by scarecrowbob on Tuesday December 31, 2024 @12:44PM (#42560333)
I know what the state history syllabus for Texas public schools looks like, both from my own experiences and as a parent. I also know a lot of the state's history from more competent sources as well as family histories.

To say there is no state run propaganda in the US is quite a statement.

Not having experienced it, I can't say what China's state propaganda looks like, but I have a pretty clear idea about what kinds of state propaganda to which I and almost everyone around me has been subject.