Re:Orbit. Mozilla's AI Assistant for Firefox
by bowsamic on Tuesday December 31, 2024 @03:53AM
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Sure but you specifically said “funded by” and Gecko dev is funded almost entirely by Google
Re:Orbit. Mozilla's AI Assistant for Firefox
by bayindirh on Tuesday December 31, 2024 @04:03AM
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How many daily-driveable browser engines we have today?
- Blink: Chromium and their friends.
- Webkit: Safari specific, on iOS and macOS only.
- Gecko: Firefox and its a few forks.
First two are forks of KHTML, which is dead by the end of KDE5 era.So? You have a cross platform evil and lesser evil. What you do?
Re:Orbit. Mozilla's AI Assistant for Firefox
by bowsamic on Tuesday December 31, 2024 @05:41AM
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Yeah they’re all funded by Google, so by your explicitly stated principle you can’t use any of them
Re:Orbit. Mozilla's AI Assistant for Firefox
by bayindirh on Tuesday December 31, 2024 @05:56AM
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At least, I’m not feeding Google directly with my every keystroke, so that’s a plus. At least in my eyes.
Sometimes we have to be pragmatic, especially if being pedantic is detrimental to our aims.
Happy new year.
Re:Orbit. Mozilla's AI Assistant for Firefox
by bowsamic on Tuesday December 31, 2024 @07:32AM
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Sure I do think we need to be pragmatic which is why I was questioning your original principle, but you don’t seem willing to abide by your stated principle at all. I’m just not sure why you said it if you have no intention to stand behind it
Re:Orbit. Mozilla's AI Assistant for Firefox
by bayindirh on Thursday January 02, 2025 @06:09AM
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Just tell me a viable alternative. I'll migrate to it.
- Not funded by an advertising company / data broker, etc.
- Not chromium based.
- Not a Firefox fork.
- Works on Linux & MacOS natively.
- Daily-driveable (i.e. functionally equivalent with Firefox).
Re:Orbit. Mozilla's AI Assistant for Firefox
by bowsamic on Thursday January 02, 2025 @07:36AM
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There isn't one, which was my point. By your originally stated principle, you are screwed, but now you seem to be just pretending you never stated that principle. I can quote it again if you like:
> As a matter of principle, I'd never use a browser which is funded by an advertisement company which lives off my data to show me ads and rob me of my privacy and cognitive capacity.
That is what YOU said. All you've been doing is against your own quote. I think the quote is stupid, for the reasons you pointed out. I'm just trying to show you that you're the one who said it, but you seem to be totally unwilling to admit that you did, even though it is clearly publicly there
Re:Orbit. Mozilla's AI Assistant for Firefox
by peppers-ghost on Tuesday December 31, 2024 @08:33AM
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if you use Linux you can run Gnome web which also uses Webkit as it's engine. You can also build webkit yourself if you want to run it on Windows.
Plus, I don't use its Mozilla build, but its Debian build.