Re:"A Course of Pure Mathematics" – G. H. Hardy (1921) [pdf]
by vouaobrasil on Monday December 30, 2024 @06:03PM
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> As a student, I also preferred straight math. Proofs were what made math come alive for me. For applications of math, I had plenty of other sources such as physics, electronics, and programming, where the examples weren't forced.
I guess the difference between us then is that I didn't care about applications.
Re:"A Course of Pure Mathematics" – G. H. Hardy (1921) [pdf]
by woopsn on Monday December 30, 2024 @07:22PM
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That's fair. Hardy himself was a zealot and in fact despised applications, writing that he hoped his work would never be put to extrinsic use, for then its value would become contingent on a particular stage of technological development.
Re:"A Course of Pure Mathematics" – G. H. Hardy (1921) [pdf]
by 867-5309 on Monday December 30, 2024 @06:29PM
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that's like studying medicine then not becoming a doctor
Re:"A Course of Pure Mathematics" – G. H. Hardy (1921) [pdf]
by liontwist on Monday December 30, 2024 @08:18PM
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Utility is not the ultimate goal of math, understanding is.
Re:"A Course of Pure Mathematics" – G. H. Hardy (1921) [pdf]
by analog31 on Monday December 30, 2024 @07:13PM
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Math can be an end unto itself. This can come as a bit of a surprise in our prevailing culture, which needs to justify the usefulness of everything. Also, it's possible for someone to study math as a liberal art, and develop the ability to do useful things with it on their own. My observation is that the people who grudgingly learned math as a means to an end, tend to forget most of it soon after graduating. This explains the widespread but paradoxical aversion to math among engineers.
Re:"A Course of Pure Mathematics" – G. H. Hardy (1921) [pdf]
by chris_wot on Tuesday December 31, 2024 @05:34AM
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Which is exactly what Hardy said himself.
Re:"A Course of Pure Mathematics" – G. H. Hardy (1921) [pdf]
by LPisGood on Monday December 30, 2024 @07:51PM
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There are lots of medical researchers who don’t treat patients.
Re:"A Course of Pure Mathematics" – G. H. Hardy (1921) [pdf]
by tikhonj on Monday December 30, 2024 @07:20PM
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so like studying (human) biology and becoming a biologist
Re:"A Course of Pure Mathematics" – G. H. Hardy (1921) [pdf]
by AnimalMuppet on Monday December 30, 2024 @06:34PM
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Not becoming a patient-treating doctor. Research doctors still matter a great deal in the field of medicine.
Re:"A Course of Pure Mathematics" – G. H. Hardy (1921) [pdf]
by orochimaaru on Monday December 30, 2024 @11:29PM
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I doubt you have pure research doctors. Medicine is a field that is so dependent on treatment outcomes. There will be doctors more focused on research. However, I doubt they will stop seeing patients.
I know for a fact that pediatric oncology and hematology is entirely driven out of a research hospital or university. But doctors there publish but also treat.
Re:"A Course of Pure Mathematics" – G. H. Hardy (1921) [pdf]
by vouaobrasil on Tuesday December 31, 2024 @06:54AM
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I think that would also be rewarding. I have no desire to become a doctor but I'm interested in how medicine works.
Re:"A Course of Pure Mathematics" – G. H. Hardy (1921) [pdf]
by OJFord on Tuesday December 31, 2024 @02:29PM
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On the contrary, it's more like studying medicine and then remaining in medical research in a purely academic (non-clinical) setting.
Re:"A Course of Pure Mathematics" – G. H. Hardy (1921) [pdf]
by lsharkey602 on Tuesday December 31, 2024 @05:28PM
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John Keats,
Osamu Tezuka,
Somerset Maugham, Hector Berlioz.
Studied medicine but did not practice (Keats did for a little while). Just for interest.
Re:"A Course of Pure Mathematics" – G. H. Hardy (1921) [pdf]
by lsharkey602 on Wednesday January 08, 2025 @08:23AM
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Also, Che Guevara.
Re:"A Course of Pure Mathematics" – G. H. Hardy (1921) [pdf]
by Koshkin on Monday December 30, 2024 @08:27PM
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Mathematics has, and has always had, applications within itself.
Re:"A Course of Pure Mathematics" – G. H. Hardy (1921) [pdf]
by vouaobrasil on Tuesday December 31, 2024 @06:54AM
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Obviously. I only meant applications to the real world. Don't care about those.
>>> We can state this more precisely as follows: if we take any segment BC on Λ, we can find as many rational points as we please on BC.
reads as a normal English sentence.
As a student, I also preferred straight math. Proofs were what made math come alive for me. For applications of math, I had plenty of other sources such as physics, electronics, and programming, where the examples weren't forced.