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Re:38C3: Illegal Instructions by cyberax on Monday December 30, 2024 @03:00PM (#42552824)
> What is the point of this experiment?

To see if your methods will actually result in anything good.

> Is it OK to propose for Ukrainians to sabotage the lives of Russian generals?

Of course. Top military personnel are a valid target in a war.

> I'm trying to apply good faith, in which case I'm going to assume you're not arguing that there has never existed a set of circumstances under which such actions would be "OK".

Pretty much. If you have to resort to terrorism, then your goal is probably indefensible.

Violence is defensible only as a response to violence.

Re:38C3: Illegal Instructions by maeil on Wednesday January 01, 2025 @11:07AM (#42566862)
If I turn up with a bulldozer and destroy your house, is that violence?

How about if I flood your entire state/region permanently, both destroying your living, as well as that of your friends and families, as well as forcing you to relocate to a region you have nothing in common with?

Someone throwing a punch in your face is violence. Is that more acceptable to counter with violence than the previous scenario? I haven't met a single person who genuinely believes that.

"violence" can express itself in many ways.

> Pretty much. If you have to resort to terrorism, then your goal is probably indefensible.

Terrorism is a meaningless tern used to appeal to emotion. One's terrorist is another's freedom fighter. Nearly every colonizer was overthrown by such a group. In many places, slavery was overturned by such groups.