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Re:President Jimmy Carter has passed away by lisper on Sunday December 29, 2024 @05:54PM (#42544253)
With good reason.
Re:President Jimmy Carter has passed away by techdmn on Sunday December 29, 2024 @06:48PM (#42544708)
I like to jokingly argue that the primary difference between Democrats and Republicans is disagreement on whether it's more important to subsidize large corporations directly or through tax policy.

In reality I think there is a lot of daylight between the parties on social issues that do not affect current power structures.

Abortion, trans rights, women's rights, gay marriage, religion in public schools, etc: Tons of difference.

Funding genocide, subsidising the fossil fuel industry, maintaining a for-profit healthcare system, opposing ranked choice or instant run-off voting, keeping third parties out, refusing to enforce anti-trust law, refusing to raise the minimum wage, no accountability for police brutality, etc: Broad bipartisan support.

Re:President Jimmy Carter has passed away by lisper on Sunday December 29, 2024 @06:54PM (#42544761)
> Tons of difference.

QED.

Re:President Jimmy Carter has passed away by llm_trw on Sunday December 29, 2024 @07:18PM (#42544954)
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRQSONu...

Or

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSaFnDH...

What choices we have.

Replace the Israeli flag with the US one when we invade someone else again.

Re:President Jimmy Carter has passed away by johnnyanmac on Sunday December 29, 2024 @11:50PM (#42546584)
I'll resist the urge to combat some of your specific points and focus on the forest.

I think there's simply a difference between funds going towards foreign policy, and ones that basically deny you autonomy. America is highly individualistic, but that's also just human nature. Many will care more about their groceries increasing by $10 a month than a billion dollars going towards a war somewhere else.

Also helps that America hasn't experienced a war on its soil in almost 80 years now. Or technically 200 years since I don't think Hawaii was ratified yet. The idea barely registers as possible to happen.

Re:President Jimmy Carter has passed away by llm_trw on Sunday December 29, 2024 @05:57PM (#42544280)
Carter deregulated more than Raygun. Raygun introduced more gun regulations than Carter.

Both parties are worse than the other on the issues they promise to be better on.

It's almost like it's a big club that you're not a member of.

Re:President Jimmy Carter has passed away by Aunche on Sunday December 29, 2024 @06:45PM (#42544692)
> Carter deregulated more than Raygun. Raygun introduced more gun regulations than Carter

Both these ignore a lot of context. Carter had to do something about stagflation. Deregulation that promotes competition and appointing Volkner to the Fed aren't directly eroding worker's rights like Reagan's solution of union busting. Reagan signed the machine gun ban as part of an amendment to pass the Firearms Owners' Protection Act that was endorsed by the NRA.

> It's almost like it's a big club that you're not a member of.

Agreed, but not in the way that you're thinking of. The "big club" is capable of understanding nuance and making dispassionate decisions (or at least their can hire people who can do that on their behalf). Regular voters react to emotional sound bites and outsource their critical thinking to those in the "big club" who superficially align with their worldview.

Re:President Jimmy Carter has passed away by HaZeust on Sunday December 29, 2024 @06:28PM (#42544568)
>"Raygun introduced more gun regulations than Carter"

People forget this, Reagan literally started the charter and expectations for the modern gun control movement just because of Black Panther advancements and protests in the street with firearms.

Re:President Jimmy Carter has passed away by trhway on Sunday December 29, 2024 @07:01PM (#42544824)
He got scared of their right to carry arms back then as a CA governor and started the gun control there.
Re:President Jimmy Carter has passed away by acdha on Sunday December 29, 2024 @08:12PM (#42545352)
Prior to the NRA’s big push in the late seventies, gun control as a concept was uncontroversial as the first gun control laws dated back to the earliest days of the country. Reagan expanding coverage due to the Black Panthers was in line with earlier precedent (after Kennedy was assassinated, during WWII, during the Mob / prohibition era, etc.).
Re:President Jimmy Carter has passed away by HaZeust on Sunday December 29, 2024 @10:50PM (#42546285)
A bit more nuanced than that; the NRA didn’t become the hardline defender of minimal gun regs until its 1977 leadership shift. Reagan’s 1967 Mulford Act as Governor targeted the Black Panthers, and then he signed 1986 FOPA as president, which relaxed some rules but banned new machine guns. It was a broad compromise package from the start.
Re:President Jimmy Carter has passed away by acdha on Monday December 30, 2024 @07:49PM (#42555278)
My focus was really the hardline individual right stance: I know people who left the NRA over that because they were sportsmen or retired military who thought it was quite reasonable to have civilian restrictions, especially mental / proficiency restrictions.
Re:President Jimmy Carter has passed away by lisper on Sunday December 29, 2024 @06:27PM (#42544550)
That may be, but that doesn't make them the same.