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Re:President Jimmy Carter has passed away by rayiner on Sunday December 29, 2024 @05:02PM (#42543749)
Restricting immigration is a long term investment in America’s future. The golden age Americans remember from the mid 20th century is partly the result of the 1924 immigration act, which cut the foreign born population from almost 15% to under 5% by the 1960s.

As relevant here Carter proposed to make it unlawful to hire illegal immigrants and to impose penalties on companies that did so: https://library.cqpress.com/cqalmanac/document.php?id=cqal77...

Re:President Jimmy Carter has passed away by thomassmith65 on Sunday December 29, 2024 @06:13PM (#42544422)
Soon after that act passed, America experienced the worst economic depression in its history. That seems inconvenient for the argument.
Re:President Jimmy Carter has passed away by akaru on Sunday December 29, 2024 @05:15PM (#42543877)
Something tells me you can’t believe this nonsense you’re spewing. You’re attributing the greatest economic boom the world has ever seen, not to being the sole winner and survivor of WWII, but because the borders were tightened. You must be a troll.
Re:President Jimmy Carter has passed away by olddustytrail on Sunday December 29, 2024 @06:01PM (#42544320)
He's not joking. He's an immigrant himself. There is often the "pulling up the ladder" attitude from the ones who think they "deserved" their entry.
Re:President Jimmy Carter has passed away by rayiner on Sunday December 29, 2024 @06:24PM (#42544533)
Not at all! I think it’s worse for the country to import foreign elites, like my family, than low skill workers. Foreign elites are the people most responsible for the dysfunction in their home countries.
Re:President Jimmy Carter has passed away by olddustytrail on Sunday December 29, 2024 @06:43PM (#42544669)
Fair enough, I stand corrected!

You think it was a mistake to allow you in and are a net negative to your country?

Re:President Jimmy Carter has passed away by rayiner on Sunday December 29, 2024 @07:24PM (#42544994)
I think if the people of Virginia were voting in 1989 whether to allow in me and 500,000 people like me, those people would not be better off as a result of choosing immigration.

- We have made their schools and jobs more competitive. We don’t have the taboo on open competition like British Americans, and don’t have the same idea of raising “well rounded” kids. My dad grew up in a village where 20% of kids died before age 5. He got out because he is a grinder. My parents socialized me to work 16 hours a day, discouraged dating, or having any hobbies that you couldn’t put on a resume, etc. I went to a STEM magnet school that went from 20-25% asian when I was there to 70% asian at the peak, and we completely changed the culture.

- We have facilitated societal changes, because we don’t value individual liberty as highly but place more value on social order. We don’t value common wisdom the way British Americans do, but place more value on formal education and credentials.

- We have reduced social cohesion. My family feels no personal solidarity with poor Americans. My family is economically liberal in a generic sense, but only insofar as they don’t personally have to pay more taxes.

Re:President Jimmy Carter has passed away by potato3732842 on Sunday December 29, 2024 @08:57PM (#42545651)
And you can even see this in US states.

A bunch of plumbers and landscapers and other blue collar types move to small town Idaho and it's business as usual, maybe Spanish pops as a subtext on more public facing signage, the local diner expands, etc, etc.

A bunch of doctors and lawyers and techies and MBAs move to Idaho and it's mayhem, local politics get turned upside down, house prices off the charts, etc, etc.

Re:President Jimmy Carter has passed away by rat87 on Sunday December 29, 2024 @05:30PM (#42544011)
America is a nation of immigrants. Xenophobic politics is stupid and makes us weaker.
Re:President Jimmy Carter has passed away by rayiner on Sunday December 29, 2024 @06:16PM (#42544454)
Incorrect. The U.S. was created by British settlers. The “operating system” of the country—everything from the legal system to the prevailing norms at elite institutions—remains Anglo-American, and has virtually nothing from any other culture.

Immigration has provided cheap labor, but at the cost of degrading our social and political systems. Irish and Italian immigration, for example, destroyed the founders’ vision of self governance and replaced it with political machines that mobile masses of low information immigrants to legitimize top-down authoritarian systems.

Re:President Jimmy Carter has passed away by sanderjd on Monday December 30, 2024 @12:35AM (#42546769)
This is incredibly ahistorical. Contemporary american culture has very little to do with 18th century british settlers.