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Re:I Automated My Job Application Process by tugu77 on Sunday December 29, 2024 @09:30AM (#42540179)
> At this point every remote internet checklist has to include checks for humanity,

I genuinely don't understand this requirement. Isn't an interview exactly that? It's a conversation pretending to be about a technical problem/question/challenge but in reality its purpose is to find out whether you click with the person and would want to work with them. If some ChatGPT text can trick you then your process is broken anyway and everybody joining your company can expect colleagues selected by this sub-par process.

Re:I Automated My Job Application Process by davidclark on Sunday December 29, 2024 @10:59AM (#42540687)
> If some ChatGPT text can trick you then your process is broken anyway

This is pretty unfair and seems like victim-blaming when we have companies spending billions of dollars to create these programs with the specific intent of trying to pass the Turing test.

Re:I Automated My Job Application Process by tugu77 on Sunday December 29, 2024 @12:07PM (#42541187)
An interviewer is a "victim"? Maybe they should just, you know, speak to their interviewees. At least in 2024 that's hardly faked by an LLM. Therefore, if you are fooled, you cheaped out, and you are hardly a victim.
Re:I Automated My Job Application Process by davidclark on Sunday December 29, 2024 @12:19PM (#42541267)
Someone being deceived is a victim, yes.
Re:I Automated My Job Application Process by brookst on Sunday December 29, 2024 @12:02PM (#42541144)
There’s a bit of an echo chamber on HN where people convince each other that all LLM-generated text is easy to identify, riddled with errors, and “obviously” inferior to all real-human writing. Because some LLM writing fits those criteria and is easily identified, these folks are convinced they can identify all LLM writing and anyone who can’t must be a dunce.
Re:I Automated My Job Application Process by tugu77 on Sunday December 29, 2024 @12:09PM (#42541205)
I didn't claim anything about identifying writing. That's a strawman. I'm talking about humans talking to each other. Even if it's in a zoom call. Any interview process that doesn't include that is broken, and that's my claim. Echo chamber or not.
Re:I Automated My Job Application Process by brookst on Sunday December 29, 2024 @12:34PM (#42541374)
Apologies for misunderstanding you, then. Agreed that human to human is critical, especially for identifying culture fit (not homogeneity of course, just interaction styles like openness, etc).

I do think people cheat video interviews with LLM help, but in-person should always be required anyway, even if it’s via proxy (“meet with a colleague from our Madrid office”).

Re:I Automated My Job Application Process by tugu77 on Sunday December 29, 2024 @02:49PM (#42542442)
How widespread is LLM cheating during video interviews these days? Honest question.. How do people even do it? Let an LLM app listen in and suggest avenues of discussion and lists a bunch of facts on the side to spice things up?

Even if that's the case, isn't it just a matter of conversing in a way that the LLM can't easily follow?