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Re:Apple Photos phones home on iOS 18 and macOS 15 by user3939382 on Saturday December 28, 2024 @09:00PM (#42536759)
> This is what a good privacy story looks like.

What a good privacy story looks like is that my photos aren’t sent anywhere in any way shape or form without explicit opt in permission.

Re:Apple Photos phones home on iOS 18 and macOS 15 by scosman on Saturday December 28, 2024 @10:54PM (#42537390)
Your photos aren't sent anywhere in this system.
Re:Apple Photos phones home on iOS 18 and macOS 15 by hu3 on Sunday December 29, 2024 @01:00AM (#42537955)
Metadata is data.
Re:Apple Photos phones home on iOS 18 and macOS 15 by theshrike79 on Sunday December 29, 2024 @03:49AM (#42538621)
This is hardly even metadata. It can't be traced to you nor can it be reversed.
Re:Apple Photos phones home on iOS 18 and macOS 15 by talldayo on Sunday December 29, 2024 @07:44PM (#42545136)
Hardly metadata is still metadata, though.
Re:Apple Photos phones home on iOS 18 and macOS 15 by notyourwork on Saturday December 28, 2024 @09:23PM (#42536866)
Do you not sync to iCloud?
Re:Apple Photos phones home on iOS 18 and macOS 15 by chatmasta on Saturday December 28, 2024 @09:29PM (#42536902)
You can enable Advanced Data Protection and all your iCloud data will be stored as encrypted blobs.
Re:Apple Photos phones home on iOS 18 and macOS 15 by sneak on Saturday December 28, 2024 @10:03PM (#42537083)
ADP sends hashes of the plaintext and filenames to Apple effectively in the clear (non e2ee).

If only you and three other people have a unique file, Apple knows you are a group.

Re:Apple Photos phones home on iOS 18 and macOS 15 by ternnoburn on Saturday December 28, 2024 @09:28PM (#42536894)
That sounds like "with opt in permission".
Re:Apple Photos phones home on iOS 18 and macOS 15 by EA-3167 on Saturday December 28, 2024 @09:42PM (#42536966)
You aren't wrong, but... it's odd coming here to HN and seeing people talk about privacy like we aren't in the nth generation of people trading theirs away for a pittance. I think the market for the sort of privacy envisioned by some here is incredibly small, incredibly niche, and honestly one of the least likely to buy an iPhone in the first place.

Most people broadcast their lives on social media, happily opt in to all sorts of schemes that track them just for minor conveniences. For people like that, the idea that the privacy protection outlined by the OP isn't enough rings really hollow.

Or to put it bluntly, at some point this really stops feeling like a practical debate, and more of an ideological one.

Re:Apple Photos phones home on iOS 18 and macOS 15 by giancarlostoro on Saturday December 28, 2024 @09:42PM (#42536965)
You can choose to do so, or not do so.
Re:Apple Photos phones home on iOS 18 and macOS 15 by timcobb on Saturday December 28, 2024 @09:40PM (#42536959)
No
Re:Apple Photos phones home on iOS 18 and macOS 15 by 7402 on Saturday December 28, 2024 @10:37PM (#42537296)
me neither.