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Re:Cable-cutting tanker seized by Finland 'was loaded with s... by Scarblac on Saturday December 28, 2024 @07:30AM (#42530591)
NATO without the US can easily hold against Russia, provided nukes don't fly and the US does not stop selling munitions.
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Re:Cable-cutting tanker seized by Finland 'was loaded with s... by mcmcmc on Saturday December 28, 2024 @08:48AM (#42531025)
So even without the US, they still need the US
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Re:Cable-cutting tanker seized by Finland 'was loaded with s... by mensetmanusman on Saturday December 28, 2024 @10:05AM (#42531509)
A charitable reading suggests they meant that no US troops would be needed.
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Re:Cable-cutting tanker seized by Finland 'was loaded with s... by sekai on Saturday December 28, 2024 @11:45AM (#42532243)
They don't, Finland and Poland alone would counter Russia.
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Re:Cable-cutting tanker seized by Finland 'was loaded with s... by int_19h on Sunday December 29, 2024 @01:24AM (#42538062)
Even if they don't have American nukes behind them?

Given what we've seen in Ukraine, I agree that Eastern European countries can likely take on Russia in conventional warfare. But that's not the only thing on the table.

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Re:Cable-cutting tanker seized by Finland 'was loaded with s... by sekai on Sunday December 29, 2024 @05:45AM (#42539139)
They don't need American nukes, UK and France have nukes.
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Re:Cable-cutting tanker seized by Finland 'was loaded with s... by int_19h on Monday December 30, 2024 @01:37AM (#42547073)
Somehow I don't think that either UK or France would be willing to get into a nuclear exchange with Russia over Poland or Finland, especially considering the relative sizes of the nuclear arsenals involved, and then also how much less concentrated the Russian population is.
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Re:Cable-cutting tanker seized by Finland 'was loaded with s... by stickfigure on Saturday December 28, 2024 @03:09PM (#42534147)
NATO without the US still has two member countries with nukes. That doesn't guarantee "NATO wins" but it does assure "Russia loses" if that particular cat comes out of the bag.
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Re:Cable-cutting tanker seized by Finland 'was loaded with s... by madspindel on Saturday December 28, 2024 @04:07PM (#42534736)
Yes, and if the US leaves NATO, Sweden will start building nukes (again)

https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/the-press-office/2012/0...

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