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Re:Giant sloths and mastodons lived with humans for millenni... by ChrisMarshallNY on Wednesday December 25, 2024 @11:21AM (#42509503)
> But some archaeologists say it's hard to imagine that humans would repeatedly traverse a site and leave no stone tools.

Those tools were really valuable. They busted their butts, making them, and wouldn't want to toss them aside, just because they got chipped or cracked. They are much more likely to throw them into a "spare parts bag," and keep them around.

Today's throwaway culture is actually pretty new, in human history. Just hang around some poor folks, to see radical conservation, in action.

Re:Giant sloths and mastodons lived with humans for millenni... by AlotOfReading on Wednesday December 25, 2024 @11:30AM (#42509542)
Lithics were, broadly speaking, more akin to how we treat plastics than metal tools. Lithic production results in enough waste that archaeologists give the waste a special name ("debitage") and even use it for destructive testing that would be unthinkable for more significant / less voluminous artifacts.
Re:Giant sloths and mastodons lived with humans for millenni... by ChrisMarshallNY on Wednesday December 25, 2024 @11:53AM (#42509697)
Thanks. Was not aware.

The other possibility, is that most of their tools were composed of biodegradable stuff, like wood, bones, and shells.

In Africa, they used wood and raw iron for their stuff (I have spears, shields, and arrows, from there). That doesn't tend to age well.

Re:Giant sloths and mastodons lived with humans for millenni... by AlotOfReading on Wednesday December 25, 2024 @01:00PM (#42510065)
That leaves other evidence that's been looked for. Additionally, the Eurasian cultures that peopled the Americas are all known to have been heavy lithic users.
Re:Giant sloths and mastodons lived with humans for millenni... by ChrisMarshallNY on Wednesday December 25, 2024 @01:06PM (#42510117)
Somewhere, I have an old stone hand axe. It's really well-made. Not sure where it's from, but I believe it came from a European Stone Age dig, about fifty years ago (probably stolen. People weren't so circumspect, in those days).
Re:Giant sloths and mastodons lived with humans for millenni... by jandrewrogers on Wednesday December 25, 2024 @01:19PM (#42510211)
I am skeptical of this assertion.

If you walk the mountains of Nevada along the fossil shoreline where the Lahontan[0] civilization thrived, you will regularly find large quantities of neolithic trash strewn about. Broken, half-finished, or abandoned stone tools are ubiquitous. It takes little effort to find obsidian arrowheads, some in perfect condition.

The preponderance of the evidence is that these were viewed as disposable artifacts, use once and throw away. If they were actually valuable, they could have picked these up in the same way we pick them up today. It would have essentially been "free money" lying on the ground. Yet for some reason, in all the intervening millennia, so few people did that modern humans can find them everywhere.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Lahontan

Re:Giant sloths and mastodons lived with humans for millenni... by ChrisMarshallNY on Wednesday December 25, 2024 @01:37PM (#42510328)
You are probably correct. This is not my area of expertise, and I likely made an assertion that has weak support.