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Re:The Riddle of Luigi Mangione by tptacek on Sunday December 22, 2024 @03:37PM (#42488888)
That's an extrapolation from a poll, not literally 50 million people, and you can get 15% of a poll sample to say almost anything, including (first thing that popped up in my Google search) that Hitler was good actually.
Re:The Riddle of Luigi Mangione by benreesman on Sunday December 22, 2024 @04:03PM (#42489076)
Let’s not finely parse the polling (or any commenter’s history of poll citing):

how about a fucking unprecedented number of people are vigorously endorsing an assassination? How about a fucking huge number that’s a big deal?

Re:The Riddle of Luigi Mangione by tptacek on Sunday December 22, 2024 @04:06PM (#42489104)
You mean like the poll that showed an unprecedented number of people supporting Hitler?
Re:The Riddle of Luigi Mangione by benreesman on Sunday December 22, 2024 @05:11PM (#42489594)
I think we can keep a lot of discussion without Godwin’s law or whatever: we really stuck on “Hitler”?
Re:The Riddle of Luigi Mangione by tptacek on Sunday December 22, 2024 @05:18PM (#42489646)
I'm not doing a "Godwin's law". I literally have on my screen a poll, which generated a whole news cycle, in which more people supported Hitler, in the United States, than are claimed to be supporting the CEO murderer here.

My point --- I think obviously --- is that 15% support in an opinion poll is a meaningless metric. Tens of millions of Americans do not in fact support Hitler. There's a whole literature on why these kinds of crazy results pop out of opinion polls (read up for instance on acquiescence bias).

Re:The Riddle of Luigi Mangione by archagon on Sunday December 22, 2024 @08:07PM (#42490754)
I’m not sure why you think tens of millions of Americans do not support Hitler in some way.

Kanye seems to like him.

Trump has said positive things about him.

There are more white supremacists around than you might think.

Re:The Riddle of Luigi Mangione by tptacek on Sunday December 22, 2024 @08:18PM (#42490813)
You know, I don't agree with you, but if you equate the mainstream-ness of people who approve of what the CEO killer did with those of Hitler supports, the dot product of our takes here will be strongly positive, and there's no need for us to hash this out.
Re:The Riddle of Luigi Mangione by itsdrewmiller on Wednesday December 25, 2024 @10:04PM (#42512848)
I encourage you to think critically about things you find on the internet - I think you are being misled in your summary here. https://www.reuters.com/fact-check/headline-summarizing-youg...

There is the concept of the lizardman’s constant for polling wacky ideas but it is more like 4%.

https://slatestarcodex.com/2013/04/12/noisy-poll-results-and...