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Re:More than 140 Kenya Facebook moderators sue after diagnos... by Eisenstein on Saturday December 21, 2024 @10:27PM (#42484196)
Are farmers more willing to discuss things like end of life medical decisions?

Are they more amenable to terminally ill people having access to euthanasia?

Do they cope better after losing loved ones?

Are there other ways we can get a sense of how a more healthy acceptance of mortality would manifest?

Would be interested in this data if it is available.

Re:More than 140 Kenya Facebook moderators sue after diagnos... by sabbaticaldev on Sunday December 22, 2024 @06:29AM (#42485715)
The pampered members of the professional-managerial class, have indeed become too disconnected from reality. Your clueless questions prove GP point
Re:More than 140 Kenya Facebook moderators sue after diagnos... by Eisenstein on Sunday December 22, 2024 @06:34AM (#42485749)
Socratic questioning is not cluelessness and your inability to answer does not bolster your position.
Re:More than 140 Kenya Facebook moderators sue after diagnos... by zmgsabst on Sunday December 22, 2024 @10:02AM (#42486725)
Socratic questioning requires the asker to have a deeper understanding whereby they guide with their questions.

Do you think that’s what people see in yours?

Re:More than 140 Kenya Facebook moderators sue after diagnos... by Eisenstein on Sunday December 22, 2024 @11:00AM (#42487128)
I don't know what people are seeing in my questions, but apparently they don't like answering them, because no one has.

I'm trying to understand what people mean by 'detachment from reality' and how such a thing is related to 'understanding of mortality', and how a deeper understanding of mortality and acceptance of death would manifest in ways that can be seen.

If 'acceptance of death' does not actually mean that they are more comfortable talking about death, or allowing people to choose their own deaths, or accepting their loved one's deaths with more ease, then what does it mean? Is it something else? Why can't anyone say what it is?

Why it is so obvious to the people stating that it happens, but no one can explain why the questions I asked are not being answered or are wrong?

If this is come basic conflict of frameworks wherein I am making assumptions that make no sense to the people who are making the assertions I am questioning, then what am I missing here?

Re:More than 140 Kenya Facebook moderators sue after diagnos... by sabbaticaldev on Sunday December 22, 2024 @11:30AM (#42487349)
> Why it is so obvious to the people stating that it happens, but no one can explain why the questions I asked are not being answered

you seems to be a bit anxious like waiting for the answer of your existential crisis.

> or are wrong?

that’s exactly what we did but you think your questions are actually super smart and we, fools, can’t answer them. Well, go on a quest to find the answers by yourself, young one.

Re:More than 140 Kenya Facebook moderators sue after diagnos... by zmgsabst on Sunday December 22, 2024 @08:55PM (#42491017)
> I don't know what people are seeing in my questions, but apparently they don't like answering them

> I'm trying to understand

Wouldn’t people be responding poorly to your questions, because they seem facetious when that’s precisely what people mean? — and obviously so?

Eg, my niece dealt better with pets dying than other kids her age I’ve known since her family regularly slaughters chickens.

> people mean by 'detachment from reality' and how such a thing is related to 'understanding of mortality'

This too is so obvious that people think you’re responding in poor faith — eg, the professional managerial class has destroyed multiple cities by being so detached from reality that they no longer imprison career criminals, resulting in social breakdown not even seen in many third world countries.

That’s why I don’t think it’s Socratic questioning: just you not understanding the basic implications or yourself being unaware of reality.

> no one can explain why the questions I asked are not being answered or are wrong?

I did say why: you come across as arrogant and ignorant by asking seemingly facetious questions about obvious implications — then comparing yourself to Socrates for doing so.

Re:More than 140 Kenya Facebook moderators sue after diagnos... by HeatrayEnjoyer on Sunday December 22, 2024 @10:15AM (#42486837)
Never seen a rhetorical question before?
Re:More than 140 Kenya Facebook moderators sue after diagnos... by s1artibartfast on Sunday December 22, 2024 @02:08PM (#42488350)
I don't have any data, but my anecdotal experience is a yes to those questions.

>Are there other ways we can get a sense of how a more healthy acceptance of mortality would manifest?

In concept, yes, I think home family death can also have a similar impact. It is not very common in the US, but 50 years ago, elders would typically die at home with family. There are cultures today, even materially advanced ones, where people spend time with the freshly dead body of loved ones instead of running from it and compartmentalizing it.

Re:More than 140 Kenya Facebook moderators sue after diagnos... by Nasrudith on Monday December 23, 2024 @05:52AM (#42493469)
It isn't farmers, but oncologists are notably more likely to choose hospice for themselves when it comes to cancer care. It is similar for familiarity with death + end of life decisions.

Of course that case is probably related to knowing the actual probabilities and the suffering involved. Medicine isn't just "drink a potion and be instantly cured or instantly die", it is a long painful process.