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Re:More than 140 Kenya Facebook moderators sue after diagnos... by 1vuio0pswjnm7 on Saturday December 21, 2024 @07:00PM (#42483343)
Perhaps this is what happens when someone creates a mega-sized website comprising hundreds of millions of pages using other peoples' submitted material, effectively creating a website that is too large to "moderate". By letting the public publish their material on someone else's mega-sized website instead of hosting their own, perhaps it concentrates the web audience to make it more suitable for advertising. Perhaps if the PTSD-causing material was published by its authors on the authors' own websites, the audience would be small, not suitable for advertising. A return to less centralised web publishing would perhaps be bad for the so-called "ad ecosystem" created by so-called "tech" company intermediaries. To be sure, it would also mean no one in Kenya would be intentionally be subjected to PTSD-causing material in the name of fulfilling the so-called "tech" industry's only viable "business model": surveillance, data collection and online ad services.
Re:More than 140 Kenya Facebook moderators sue after diagnos... by croissants on Saturday December 21, 2024 @07:30PM (#42483486)
A return to less centralized web publishing would also be bad for the many creators who lack the technical expertise or interest to jump through all the hoops required for building and hosting your own website. Maybe this seems like a pretty small friction to the median HN user, but I don't think it's true for creators in general, as evidenced by the enormous increase in both the number and sophistication of online creators over the past couple of decades.

Is that increase worth traumatizing moderators? I have no idea. But I frequently see this sentiment on HN about the old internet being better, framed as criticism of big internet companies, when it really seems to be at least in part criticism of how the median internet user has changed -- and the solution, coincidentally, would at least partially reverse that change.

Re:More than 140 Kenya Facebook moderators sue after diagnos... by moomin on Saturday December 21, 2024 @08:36PM (#42483795)
I mean, the technical expertise thing is solvable, it’s just no-one wants to solve it because SaaS is extremely lucrative."
Re:More than 140 Kenya Facebook moderators sue after diagnos... by apitman on Sunday December 22, 2024 @11:52AM (#42487505)
Content hosting for creators can be commoditized.

Content discovery may even be able to remain centralized.

No idea if there's a way for it to work out economically without ads, but ads are also unhealthy so maybe that's ok.

Re:More than 140 Kenya Facebook moderators sue after diagnos... by lalalali on Sunday December 22, 2024 @02:55PM (#42488615)
Introducing a free unlimited hosting service where you could only upload pictures, text or video. There’s a public page to see that content among adds and links to you friends free hosting service pages. TOS is a give-give: you give them the right to extract all the aggregated stat they want and display the adds, they give you the service for free so you own you content!
Re:More than 140 Kenya Facebook moderators sue after diagnos... by coryrc on Saturday December 21, 2024 @10:19PM (#42484168)
It's a problem when you don't verify the identity of your users and hold them responsible for illegal things. If Facebook verified you were John D SSN 123-45-6789 they could report you for uploading CSAM and otherwise permanently block you from using the site if uploading objectionable material; meaning only exposure to horrific things is only necessary once per banned user. I would expect that to be orders of magnitude less than what they deal with today.
Re:More than 140 Kenya Facebook moderators sue after diagnos... by renewiltord on Sunday December 22, 2024 @11:23AM (#42487294)
You can thank online privacy activists for this.
Re:More than 140 Kenya Facebook moderators sue after diagnos... by DaSHacka on Sunday December 22, 2024 @12:43PM (#42487864)
You can thank IRL privacy activists for the lack of cameras in every room in each house; Just imagine how much faster domestic disputes could be resolved!
Re:More than 140 Kenya Facebook moderators sue after diagnos... by renewiltord on Sunday December 22, 2024 @12:46PM (#42487889)
Sure, there’s a cost-benefit to it. We think that privacy is more important than rapid resolution of domestic disputes and we think that privacy is more important than stopping child porn. That’s fine as a statement.
Re:More than 140 Kenya Facebook moderators sue after diagnos... by IshKebab on Sunday December 22, 2024 @02:02PM (#42488316)
Rubbish. The reason Facebook doesn't want to demand ID for most users is that it adds friction to using their product, which means fewer users and less profit.
Re:More than 140 Kenya Facebook moderators sue after diagnos... by stickfigure on Sunday December 22, 2024 @11:07PM (#42491671)
Sounds like Facebook and I have the same interest, then.
Re:More than 140 Kenya Facebook moderators sue after diagnos... by kelseyfrog on Sunday December 22, 2024 @02:05PM (#42488332)
Unsurprising lack of response to this statement. It's 100% true, and any cost-benefit calculation of privacy should account for it.