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Re:US judge finds Israel's NSO Group liable for hacking jour... by bawolff on Saturday December 21, 2024 @04:41AM (#42478596)
Its not like this is that different than traditional "weapons" (i hate the "cyberweapons" analogy, but if the shoe fits).

Sell guns to governments, even unsavoury ones, it is very rare anything will happen to you except in pretty extreme cases. Sell guns to street gangs, well that is a different story. Like i don't think this situation is different because it is "hacking".

Re:US judge finds Israel's NSO Group liable for hacking jour... by onedognight on Saturday December 21, 2024 @07:24AM (#42479276)
The NSO created/ran cloud instances for each client country and reviewed and approved every target. The didn’t sell weapons like in your analogy. They were effectively assassins for hire.

The problem with selling exploits is you want to maintain “ownership” of the exploit details, lest your customer just take the exploit and sell/use it without paying more or use it to attack you or your friends. This means you end up with veto power. I.e. culpability.

Re:US judge finds Israel's NSO Group liable for hacking jour... by Neonlicht on Saturday December 21, 2024 @07:08AM (#42479207)
All the cartels in Mexico buy their guns from America and nobody is going to jail over it.
Re:US judge finds Israel's NSO Group liable for hacking jour... by lupusreal on Saturday December 21, 2024 @08:43AM (#42479624)
People do in fact get sent to prison for that, straw purchases are a federal felony. Not all of them actually get caught, which is true of any crime.
Re:US judge finds Israel's NSO Group liable for hacking jour... by oaththrowaway on Saturday December 21, 2024 @09:58AM (#42480041)
Except when the ATF does it, no big deal
Re:US judge finds Israel's NSO Group liable for hacking jour... by buo on Saturday December 21, 2024 @01:34PM (#42481304)
Re:US judge finds Israel's NSO Group liable for hacking jour... by lupusreal on Sunday December 22, 2024 @02:53PM (#42488606)
Kind of like the CIA importing heroin and cocaine. The laws cover this scenario but we have a problem with especially poor enforcement when the crimes are committed by parts of the government.
Re:US judge finds Israel's NSO Group liable for hacking jour... by monkeyfun on Saturday December 21, 2024 @04:17PM (#42482379)
And meanwhile, if the government sells guns to cartels... no big deal. Rarely throw a fall guy under the bus. Or often not even that.

Trying to remember the quote I last heard, something to the tune of "we don't want to punish, we want to educate", which was about "educating" LEOs and entire police departments they shouldn't be selling fun switch guns illegally to gangs and private buyers.

(And do I even have to mention "fast and furious?" Hah! Feds get it the easiest.)