Alignment faking in large language models

Re:Alignment faking in large language models by IanCal on Thursday December 19, 2024 @07:18PM (#42467136)

The problem I have with this is it seems to rapidly assume that humans and animals are somehow magic. If you think we're physical things obeying physical laws, then unless you think there's something truly uncomputable about us then we can be replicated with maths.

In which case is this just an argument about scale?

> It’s a pile of math working over a massive set of “differently compressed” data that encompasses a large swath of human knowledge.

So am I but over less knowledge and more interactions.

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Re:Alignment faking in large language models by cruffle_duffle on Thursday December 19, 2024 @11:13PM (#42468227)

All of what you said can be true but that doesn’t mean any of it applies to large language models. Large language model-like “thing” might be some component of whatever makes animals like humans conscious but it certainly isn’t the only thing. Not even close.

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Re:Alignment faking in large language models by IanCal on Friday December 20, 2024 @06:49AM (#42470328)

What it means is that the complaints about language models being "just maths" or "just code" are not sufficient.

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